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WR Santonio Holmes (Super Bowl XLIII MVP)

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scarletngrey77 said:
http://florida.scout.com/2/506684.html"When he first came out, teams were thinking third or fourth round because they were looking at numbers and statistics," said Canter. "Numbers and statistics don't tell you what you see on the football field. They have to look at what he was asked to do in the system, what kind of routes he was running and other things like that.
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Coming from Fun'N'Gun U, that's hilarious. A WR at that school who didn't put up eye-popping numbers tries to ration that he's better than a guy (with better numbers) from Three-yards-and-a-cloud, but didn't show it because of the system? If anything, Santonio was under-utilized, not the other way around.
 
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Yertle said:
Ugh, I hate to bring this up, but I will anyways.

I love Santonio Holmes, and I'll root for the guy in the NFL even if he plays for the stinking Steelers. But he is not an alumni. I know I'm being way over-analytical here, but it doesn't seem like we should be handing that title out to individuals who did not earn their degree.

Don't get me wrong, I would not have passed up the money if I was in his shoes either. I don't know, maybe Tressel's talk of going to school is first about the degree is rubbing off on me.

Can we call this forum "Former Buckeyes"?
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1. I'm an Ohio State grad. I'm not a "former" Buckeye. I'll always be a Buckeye.

2. From the Ohio State alumni website (http://www.ohiostatealumni.org/whoweare/constitution.php)

Section 2.
Persons eligible for Active membership shall consist of the following:
(a) Persons holding degrees given in course by the University, and
(b) Former students of the University having to their credit the equivalent of fifteen or more quarter hours which have resulted from work successfully completed and on record at the University.

Looking at the definition above, the Ohio State Alumni Association would count Santonio Holmes as an alumnus. He may not be an Ohio State graduate (yet), but he is already an alumnus.

3. From dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=alumnus), we have the following:

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A male graduate or former student of a school, college, or university.(I added the bold/italics).

I think Santonio Holmes is a Buckeye alumnus, all told.
 
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Yertle said:
Ugh, I hate to bring this up, but I will anyways.

I love Santonio Holmes, and I'll root for the guy in the NFL even if he plays for the stinking Steelers. But he is not an alumni. I know I'm being way over-analytical here, but it doesn't seem like we should be handing that title out to individuals who did not earn their degree.
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Hawk, Mangold, Salley, and Sims don't have their degrees either. None of the players from the 2002 class have degrees besides Mitchell or White. Are those guys not alumni?
 
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that topic was already addressed in the discussion about naming this forum. I believe the definition of alumni does not necessarily require a completed degree, tho that is how it is often used.
 
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Here are results from tOSU's Pro Day, per NFL.com


OHIO STATE: MARCH 9
There were five head coaches present -- Pittsburgh's Bill Cowher, Chicago's Lovie Smith, Detroit's Rod Marinelli, Cleveland's Romeo Crennel and the Giants' Tom Coughlin -- and about 100 team scouts and representatives. The players ran outdoors on a strip of extremely fast AstroTurf that has been down there for some years.

Player.................Position....Gil's comments
Santonio Holmes...WR..........Holmes was timed at 4.34 and 4.36 in the 40.
 
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I am sure they will. This is probably the first time I have ever been fine with a buck going pro early. Holmes was ready and he has to support his family. Holmes is going to continue the tradition of great Pro WRs from THE PRO U.
 
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NFL 2005 League Leaders:

WRs
#1...Steve Smith - 1,563 yrds > 5'9" / 185 lbs.
#2...Santana Moss - 1,483 yrds > 5'10" / 190 lbs.


There will always be the thought (I believe) that a 6'3" 220 lb. 4.4 guy is the prototypical franchise receiver, but if you can play (and remain durable) I don't think it matters much as a few have shown, including our own Joey Galloway (1287 yrds &10 TDs) and Terry Glenn (1136 yrds. & 7 TDs), both listed around 5'11", 195 lbs.
 
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