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From nfldraftcountdown.com (currently on the main page)
A very fair assessment I would say.
Wide Receiver | Junior | Ohio St.
Santonio Holmes Height: 5-10 5/8 | Weight: 179 | 40-Time: 4.34
Official Bio
Strengths:
A vertical home run threat who can really separate...Plays faster than he times and is very quick...Runs outstanding routes and knows how to get open...Runs well after the catch and is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball...Has good hands and will make the catch while running at full speed...Displays solid ball skills...Physical and strong...Plays much bigger than his frame would indicate.
Weaknesses:
Has only average size...Lacks elite timed speed...Might have trouble beating the jam in the pros...Will let some balls get into his body...A willing blocker who gives top effort but his size will always limit him in that area...Was not super productive but he played in a run-first offense...Might not be a true #1 at the next level.
Notes:
Has two sons: Santonio III and Nicori...Is a second cousin of Jacksonville Jaguars running back Fred Taylor...May not be the biggest or fastest receiver around but he does all the little things and makes plays...Similar in many ways to Terry Glenn.
A very fair assessment I would say.
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BuckTwenty
Parties with Pete Johnson's Beard
I can't believe they don't have his blocking as a STRENGTH! They are focusing WAY too much on his height.
And "lacks elite timed speed"? They list his 40 time at the top of that article at 4.34!!
And "lacks elite timed speed"? They list his 40 time at the top of that article at 4.34!!
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Yeah, 4.34 is slow.
The author may want to ask the ND lineman that got his ass planted by Holmes on Ginn's TD run about how Holmes' size limited his ability to make that block.
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The 4.34 was posted on the OSU track which is a pretty damn fast track. I think he is fast; although it is fair to say he lacks elite speed...he didn't call him slow. It's fair because he is considered the top WR in the class, which makes the expectations pretty high. Although the blocking I'll agree is BS, he is the best OSU blocking wide receiver that I've seen.
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I guess we are just arguing over what elite speed is. To me it is Ginn, Hester, Moss, that LSU guy. I realize his time was just as good as anyone's really. Although I still am not able to take OSU's 40's all that confidently because of hawk's freakish numbers. Anyways, we all know the 40 is very overrated as it's what you can run, with pads on, and Holmes speed never felt ELITE to me. Although this season and I was part of the camp who liked Holmes better then Ginn. Holmes deserves to be the first WR picked in my mind, and if his speed is elite is debatable, but not worth getting upset about.
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I'm not saying he should in comparison to other wide receivers. However for a team with the 7th pick and needs a wide receiver and a linebacker or something, maybe they can use that to say they should go with a linebacker.
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GridironGrace
The Team Up North Sucks!
Who else Thinks that Denver got in the Trade with the Falcons/Jets in order to move up to select our boy Holmes ????
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redskinbucksfan
The brownest of the brown liquors
Didn't see him get caught from behind very often.
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BuckFanAtAkron
All-American
I totally agree with you. I think they would use it on Holmes but i have also heard they might select a quarterback if one drops to them.
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wow. you guys read too much into things and look for things to gripe about.
He does lack elite timed speed. the 4.34 isn't valid. I don't know what else he was timed at, but he isn't known as a speed receiver.
They also weren't knocking his blocking abilities, just questioning if he can do it at the next level with the bigger guys. They weren't even really questioning it....more like making up negatives to talk about because there aren't many. They basically said "he's a damn good blocker, maybe he can do it in the NFL, maybe he can't."
He does lack elite timed speed. the 4.34 isn't valid. I don't know what else he was timed at, but he isn't known as a speed receiver.
They also weren't knocking his blocking abilities, just questioning if he can do it at the next level with the bigger guys. They weren't even really questioning it....more like making up negatives to talk about because there aren't many. They basically said "he's a damn good blocker, maybe he can do it in the NFL, maybe he can't."
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