WR Cris Carter (All B1G, All-American, 8x Pro Bowler, 3x All Pro, NFL HOF)

[OH10]

Until the selection committee has to actually answer questions about their illogical voting.... fuck the Hall of Fame. I've lived in Ohio my whole life and I will not visit that museum as long as the voting process is secret and OBVIOUSLY political.

 

[bucknut11]

Traveshamockery

 

[Bucklion]

Until the selection committee has to actually answer questions about their illogical voting.... [censored] the Hall of Fame. I've lived in Ohio my whole life and I will not visit that museum as long as the voting process is secret and OBVIOUSLY political.

It's political because it's the media. The HOF don't vote for who gets in, they just take care of it, so no real reason to punish the Hall itself. As long as the media is involved, people like Carter, Parcells, Tagliabue, people who some in the media didn't like...well, this is going to continue to happen. Carter faces the additional problem of being a WR, which is another strike against him. Nothing wrong with the guys who got in this time...but the exclusion of guys like Carter and Tim Brown is baffling.

 

[OH10]

It's political because it's the media. The HOF don't vote for who gets in, they just take care of it, so no real reason to punish the Hall itself. As long as the media is involved, people like Carter, Parcells, Tagliabue, people who some in the media didn't like...well, this is going to continue to happen. Carter faces the additional problem of being a WR, which is another strike against him. Nothing wrong with the guys who got in this time...but the exclusion of guys like Carter and Tim Brown is baffling.

The Hall of Fame does have control over whether the voting process has any transparency. That is obviously the biggest problem here. It's easy to hold a grudge in secret voting. Force them to bring it out in the open and be accountable.

 

[OH10]

Carter has 131 touchdowns - good for 8th in NFL history. Now I'm not sure what a "touchdown" is, but I hear in football that it's pretty important.

He caught them from the some of the greatest quarterbacks in history. Guys like Rich Gannon, Sean Salisbury, Jim McMahon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham and Jeff George. It seems as if Austin Moherman could have been throwing him the ball and he'd have scored touchdowns. It's like all Cris Carter did was score touchdowns.

There are 21 WRs in the Hall of Fame. Carter has more touchdowns than 20 of them; more yards than 19 of them; more catches than 20 of them.

And he's been passed up 5 times. By a process that allows fat, out-of-shape journalistic hacks to hold a grudge and keep their biased votes secret. It's a [censored]ing joke. I'm not sure at what point to just laugh at it. But not today. I'm hot about it today. [censored]ing [censored]ed off in fact.

 

[Buckskin86]

Rand: The Cris Carter conundrum
Updated: February 7, 2012
The former Viking looks like a slam dunk for the Hall of Fame, but so do a bunch of other receivers.

You don't know the angst the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee faces until you spend a perfectly good Monday afternoon trapped in the vortex of NFL wide receivers. Do so, and the Cris Carter outrage -- and there has been plenty over the ex-Vikings WR getting passed over for enshrinement over the weekend -- becomes a bit muted. Because trying to determine the best wide receivers in NFL history, aside from the obviously elite like Jerry Rice, is a near-impossibility. For every fact that points to Carter as a sure-thing Hall of Famer and a top-10 all-time receiver, there is another group of players or numbers lurking that cast a doubt. For instance:

? The Pro Football Hall of Fame includes 21 modern-era wide receivers. Carter, with 1,101 catches, has more career catches than all but one of them (Rice). Carter is also fourth all-time in receiving touchdowns and eighth in receiving yards. So, case closed. Top 10, Hall of Famer. Except ...

? Seriously, 1,000-catch receivers are going to be like the opposite of 300-game winners in MLB. Carter played at the front end of an era in which wide receivers started catching a boat-load of short passes. Carter merely managed to get to the finish line first. Marvin Harrison -- not yet eligible for the HOF -- passed him in receptions. Anquan Boldin and Roddy White could approach or pass Carter in receptions. Do you consider them HOFers? However ...

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http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/138819319.html

 

[Buckskin86]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2MNL9NdD8"]Cris Carter Chris Spielman-Michigan vs Ohio State - HBO The Rivalry - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Buckskin86]

Bias against Carter could be keeping him out of the Hall of Fame
Posted by Mike Florio on February 11, 2012

With 1,101 career receptions, former Vikings, Eagles, and Dolphins (yes, Dolphins) receiver Cris Carter is fourth on the all-time list, only one catch behind Marvin Harrison. Carter ranks eighth in NFL history with 13,899 yards, and he?s fourth with 130 receiving touchdowns, behind only Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss.

But Carter never played in a Super Bowl, and he never had the kind of game-changing speed that forced defensive coordinators to always account for him. While those facts could provide the basis for denying him entry into the Hall of Fame, concerns exist that Carter has been overlooked due not to his performance, but his personality.

Most in the media regard Carter as a jerk. (In 11 years, I?ve encountered only one member of the media who doesn?t.) And there?s growing concern that, when it?s time to cast the secret Hall of Fame ballots, those who are voting against Carter possibly are being influenced by their personal dislike for him.

Now, Howard Eskin of WIP and NBC 10 reports via Twitter that Carter failed to gain entry last weekend because of a voter who has ?personal problems? with Carter. Eskin writes that this cost Carter four votes, and that Carter missed the mark by one. In a subsequent Twitter entry, Eskin says that people close to Carter received this information from someone involved with the voting.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...could-be-keeping-him-out-of-the-hall-of-fame/

 

[cincibuck]

Well, he didn't play for a New York team -- no, wait, that's the baseball hall of fame.

 

[Buckskin86]

Cris Carter Sounds Frustrated by his Hall of Fame Snub, Thinks New England and Chicago as Landing Spots for Randy Moss
February 15, 2012
by Steven Cuce

Cris Carter may have had the sports world believing that he had some majors doubts about Randy Moss returning to the NFL, but it seems like the former Vikings wide receiver had a change of mind when he came on The Michael Irvin Show. CC has no reason to believe that Moss isn?t hungry to get back into the NFL based on No.84′s comments made on uStream this week. He sure sounds like he is in Moss?s corner now, and the former Vikings wide receiver has an interesting take on one potential landing spot for his former teammate.

As for Carter being passed over again for the NFL Hall of Fame? Take a listen to his thoughts in a tremendous interview conducted by Michael Irvin. You can think what you want of the Playmaker off the field, but the Hall of Fame Dallas Cowboys wide receiver truly captures the stress and emotion involved in being crushed when a player finds out they didn?t make it into the Hall of Fame again.



Cris Carter joined WQAM in Miami with The Michael Irvin Show to discuss not making it into the NFL Hall of Fame, feeling like he had a good chance to get the call from Canton this season, the HOF snubbing the wide receiver position, believing that Randy Moss can still play wide receiver at a high level, and Moss being a great fit in Chicago and New England.

First off how are you doing? [After being snubbed by the NFL Hall of Fame]

?I?m doing pretty good. I had a great Super Bowl?I say recovery from the Hall of Fame. The reason why is because I got friends like you and we also saw Andre Reed. We were able to spend a lot of time together. It really helped me because I thought he would get through, but I mean it?s real. It?s real life and I?m glad that I have people that really, really care about me, but ultimately you know there is nothing I can do. There?s nothing I can do. That?s really how I feel about it.?

You had to see the guys up on that list for the Hall of Fame this season and felt like you had a pretty good chance going into the day?

?Michael I don?t look at the list every year. I mean I felt good my first year. I mean I am the only person alive that?s eligible for the Hall of Fame that has 130 touchdowns that is not in it, so when you have a stat like that. You got more touchdowns than Jim Brown and Walter Payton like?I mean I am not campaigning for the Hall of Fame, so for me Mike the list doesn?t change every year. My numbers ain?t going to change. It?s just too much productivity over the time?like I have no argument Mike. I really don?t.?

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http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2012/02/15/cris-carter-randy-moss-nfl-hall-of-fame/#more-55678

http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=781

 

[Buckskin86]

Cris Carter: ?I can?t blame the NFL for every issue that every former player has?
Posted by Mike Florio on May 7, 2012

During the first installment in a five-part series of ESPN?s Outside The Lines, former NFL receiver Cris Carter made a point that will continue to echo through the months and years in which the concussion litigation unfolds.

?I can?t blame the NFL for every issue that every former player in the NFL has,? Carter said.

That?s the challenge, ultimately. If liability exists for concealing evidence regarding concussion risks or failing to take steps to protect players, it?s important that only those players whose circumstances trace to injuries associated with that liability share in the settlement or verdict.

It?s highly unlikely that Carter will ever join the growing throng of concussions plaintiffs. He says he may have had one concussion, and that, for the most part, ?I was trying to avoid contact.?

Carter also repeated something that applies to former and current players: ?I signed up to be in the NFL. It wasn?t like someone had to force me. I kinda knew what I was signing up for.?

And he tried to sign up for it even before he was old enough to do it.

?I doctored up my birth certificate when I was seven years old. They told me to come back in a year,? Carter said. ?I was born to play the game. A lot of us were born to play the game. Make the game safer, because there?s a lot of other kids who are born to play the game, also.?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...for-every-issue-that-every-former-player-has/

 

[CentralMOBuck]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7907610/cris-carter-formerly-minnesota-vikings-admits-authorizing-bounties

Former Minnesota Vikings All-Pro receiver Cris Carter says he put "bounties" on opposing players as a form of protection during his 16-year NFL career.

Carter, currently an ESPN NFL analyst, said on "Hill and Schlereth" on ESPN Radio on Tuesday night that he would offer money to teammates to take out players Carter thought were trying to take him out.

"I'm guilty of (bounties) -- I mean first time I've ever admitted it -- but I put a bounty on guys before," Carter told the show. "I put bounties on guys. If a guy tries to take me out, a guy takes a cheap shot on me? I put a bounty on him right now!"

When asked if the bounties were financial, Carter said: "Absolutely."

Carter, a Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist for the last five years, said it was a matter of protecting himself from players at a different position, such as linebacker.

"I'd tell one of them guards, 'Hey man this dude is after me, man' " Carter said.

The 46-year-old told of former Pro Bowl linebacker Bill Romanowski, then with the Denver Broncos, threatening to hurt him in pregame warmups.

 

[OHSportsFan]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7907610/cris-carter-formerly-minnesota-vikings-admits-authorizing-bounties

Sure to help him in his pursuit of Canton enshrinement.

 

[Bucklion]

Sure to help him in his pursuit of Canton enshrinement.

I was thinking the same thing, he must figure he's not getting in, because this will absolutely not help him (whether it should matter or not is a different question, but it will).

 

[Buckskin86]

Cris Carter admits to bounties
Updated: May 9, 2012
ESPN.com news services

Former Minnesota Vikings All-Pro receiver Cris Carter says he put "bounties" on opposing players as a form of protection during his 16-year NFL career.

Carter, currently an ESPN NFL analyst, said Tuesday night on "Hill and Schlereth" on ESPN Radio that he would offer money to teammates to take out players he thought were trying to take him out.

"I'm guilty of (bounties) -- I mean, first time I've ever admitted it -- but I put a bounty on guys before," Carter told show hosts Mike Hill and Mark Schlereth. "I put bounties on guys. If a guy tries to take me out, a guy takes a cheap shot on me? I put a bounty on him right now!"

When asked whether the bounties carried financial incentive, Carter said: "Absolutely."

Carter clarified his comments Wednesday morning in an appearance on ESPN's "SportsCenter," emphasizing that there was no intent to injure an opponent -- as the NFL alleges was the case in the Saints' "pay for pain" system. Carter acknowledged that using the term "bounty" may have been a poor choice of words on his part.

"The difference is people going out of their way to hurt a player," Carter said Wednesday, "hitting a spot that we as players know is off limits, like his knees. You're not telling them to go out and get someone, you're telling them to protect you, run down the field to protect their skill guys."

On Tuesday, Carter, a Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist for the past five years, said it was a matter of protecting himself from players at a different position, such as linebacker.

"I'd tell one of them guards, 'Hey man, this dude is after me, man,'" Carter said.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...minnesota-vikings-admits-authorizing-bounties

Cris Carter on ESPN Radio- 5 8 12

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWwfR8TVWXU"]Cris Carter Admits To Bounties - YouTube[/ame]