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Worst Call of All Time?

The loss was Ty Willingham's fault, and here's why. After the PAT was blocked, a bunch of BYU guys ran onto the field immediately, before the ball was recovered. Ty should have talked to the refs before his team kicked off, and said that the celebration call on BYU should be marked on the XP attempt, because it wasn't a 'dead ball' call, since the too many BYU players on the field affected his team's chances of recovering the blocked PAT and running it in for a game-winning 2-point conversion.

Telling the refs that the first call was a lousy way to 'decide' the game, and that they should give Washington another PAT try from half the distance (9-yard line) to even things out is optional in that conversation. :wink2:
 
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BB73;1252809; said:
The loss was Ty Willingham's fault, and here's why. After the PAT was blocked, a bunch of BYU guys ran onto the field immediately, before the ball was recovered. Ty should have talked to the refs before his team kicked off, and said that the celebration call on BYU should be marked on the XP attempt, because it wasn't a 'dead ball' call, since the too many BYU players on the field affected his team's chances of recovering the blocked PAT and running it in for a game-winning 2-point conversion.

Telling the refs that the first call was a lousy way to 'decide' the game, and that they should give Washington another PAT try from half the distance (9-yard line) to even things out is optional in that conversation. :wink2:

Wait, I thought ND actually beat SDSU? :lol:
 
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In the Locker UW case. I believe the ref was right. His is there to uphold the letter of the law, the law states the ball must be returned to the ref or the dead ball spot... neither of which were followed. Second He threw that ball underhand atleast 25-30 feet in the air, all he had to do was DROP the ball, thats it, THATS IT. Drop it and continue your excitement - THATS IT.

Dont get on the ref. He did what every ref should be doing.... If you think holding should be legal then change the rule, dont yell at the ref that HAS to call it.

In the Florida game, my only problem is I dont think there was good enough evidence to change the call on the field. It was ruled incomplete and I dont know how the booth could clearly overturn the incomplete pass. Yes it was close and possibly can be argued 50/50 - but that is not enough to over turn the ruling on the field, it must be completely visible video evidence. No angle ever showed both the possesion and the postion of the reciever in bounds at the same time.
 
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Dryden;1252078; said:
My problem with the call against Locker was that it was a ridiculously strict interpretation of the rule on the part of the official to consider what Locker did "throwing the ball into the air."

I absolutely hate the way the officials are interpreting and penalizing any form of exuberance or emotion.

A college basketball player makes a dunk, hangs on the rim for way more than necessary, finally comes down, screams at the crowd and eventually turns to run back down court playing to the audience the entire way. If a football player so much as acknowledges the crowd, he gets flagged.
 
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AJHawkfan;1253148; said:
I absolutely hate the way the officials are interpreting and penalizing any form of exuberance or emotion.

The refs on the field didn't write the stupid rule. If they don't enforce the rules they face disciplinary action, suspension, termination, etc..

Instead of spelling out in explicit detail what constitutes "excessive celebration" they should leave it at the discretion of the officials.
 
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the rule was a point of emphasis this year. each team received a video including all the points of emphasis. notice what osu guys do when they score or finish a play? toss it to the ref or leave the ball on the ground (rarely do they leave it on the ground).

you can blame the officials but they didnt miss the pat...
 
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What killed me in Oregon-Oklahoma was the idiots spent 5 minutes worrying about whether it was touched at 9 or 10 yards and completely missed the Sooner player actually recover the ball.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNw24AiZEI&feature=related]YouTube - They're blind they're deaf they're PAC10 Refs[/ame]
 
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AJHawkfan;1253148; said:
I absolutely hate the way the officials are interpreting and penalizing any form of exuberance or emotion.

A college basketball player makes a dunk, hangs on the rim for way more than necessary, finally comes down, screams at the crowd and eventually turns to run back down court playing to the audience the entire way. If a football player so much as acknowledges the crowd, he gets flagged.

Old school here. Let's leave all the damn showboating to WWF. There is such a thing as sportsmanship.
 
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JohnnyCockfight;1252526; said:
The "worst call of all time", especially within college football, is the the fifth down that allowed Colorado to beat Mizzou on the last play of the game, even though they should have been out of downs. The long term effect of the extra down was Colorado winning the AP National Championship that year.

The elements that make it the worst call are: (1) that it was irrefutably wrong; (2) the call directly changed who won the game; (2) the utter stupidity of the call -- no judgment or opinion was relied upon like in deciding whether a completion was made; and (4) the significant national effect -- they wouldn't have won the (split) national title with 2 losses and 1 tie.

The Fifth Down Game
If I'm not mistaken Michigan defeated Illinois on the same kind of call a few years back.
 
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I was actually OK with the Locker call. People need to realize that a rule is a rule and that the referees should not be faulted for enforcing the rules of the game. You want to blame someone, blame the NCAA rules committee or whoever promulgated the rule.

The Florida-Miami call was horrible. As has been said before, the kid never even had possession of the ball, and it bounced out of his hands as he came down out of bounds. Even worse, he did not have a foot, forearm, or elbow in bounds. Considering the fact that the pass was called incomplete live, there is no way in the world the refs could justifiably claim that there was irrefutable evidence that the pass was complete.

Anyone notice the ridiculous no-call on the holding that occurred on Harvin's TD run? It was right on the end of the line, which was the only thing that allowed Harvin to get to the corner and the end zone. Ref was standing 5 feet from where it occurred.

Those two situations in the UF-Miami game were total jokes that smacked of SEC officials looking out for their own. There is no other explanation. I just hope that the Bucks don't encounter the same with the Pac-10 officials this weekend.
 
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buckeyesin07;1253908; said:
I was actually OK with the Locker call. People need to realize that a rule is a rule and that the referees should not be faulted for enforcing the rules of the game. You want to blame someone, blame the NCAA rules committee or whoever promulgated the rule.

BINGO! I mean it wasn't like the ball went up a couple of feet. I could understand an argument if it went up a few feet. But that ball looked like it was shot out of a cannon.

But it comes down to the fact Washington couldn't kick a 36 yard PAT. Those should be automatic!
 
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jmorbitz;1252497; said:
This section bothers me.
Understood, however... bottom line is flip the ball to the refs, and you've got nothing to worry about.

jmorbitz;1252497; said:
Yes, Jake Locker, probably unintentionally, threw the ball in the air, but since there are no specifics, like height of the ball or something, it's a subjective call.
Bullshit. He didn't "unintentionally" throw the ball into the air.. and while it is "subjective" I challenge anyone to say he didn't throw the ball "high into the air" just as the rule indicates.

Take another look, specifically around the 1:20 mark:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOA1m0qnG0]YouTube - Jake Locker Excessive Celebration Penalty[/ame]

Again, just hand the ball to the ref - and theres no problem at all. Locker fucked up. Not the refs.
 
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Bullshit. He didn't "unintentionally" throw the ball into the air.. and while it is "subjective" I challenge anyone to say he didn't throw the ball "high into the air" just as the rule indicates.
I'm not disputing at all that Locker threw the ball into the air, he did, I'm just saying I'm not him. I can't for sure say that he thought crossing the goal line "I'm going to chuck the fuck out of this ball" or "Holy shit I scored! Celebrate" and just throws the ball. Either way he throws it, refs gotta call it end of discussion.
 
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