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Will Matta's past come back to haunt the Buckeyes?

  • No, tOSU will roll Xavier

    Votes: 25 55.6%

  • Yes, it could provide motivation to make it a close game

    Votes: 18 40.0%

  • Yes, Xavier could win given their history with Matta

    Votes: 2 4.4%
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OK, that is a point I can agree with 100%. I see it as an impending factor only because the media will be drooling over this issue and I am sure it will be in the minds of those three seniors.

On the other hand, your point about peaking too early is a good point. They may come out too hyped which could create more problems in the end.
 
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melrun78;783919; said:
I asked him, do you really believe that? He said yes, he said the NCAA tourney is all about emotion
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In the NCAA college football video games, Herbstreit says how you can't play on pure emotion - you'll constantly be out of position on defense.

I know that basketball and football are different sports. But I think that discipline is important in both sports. An emotional game will take that team out of their game, and they'll lose. If the Xavier players are really bitter that Matta left them, it wouldn't be difficult for Matta to take his players and keep them under control to win the game.
 
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No, you are right Tron, one had nothing to do with the other. In fact, I bet those seniors totally forgot Matta was ever their coach. And I bet those players he recruited but never coached don't even know who he is.

This was just a game between two teams with absolutely no past history.
 
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melrun78;785902; said:
No, you are right Tron, one had nothing to do with the other. In fact, I bet those seniors totally forgot Matta was ever their coach. And I bet those players he recruited but never coached don't even know who he is.

This was just a game between two teams with absolutely no past history.
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Well if we're playing that game of sarcastic absolutes...

How did VCU possibly force OT against an opponent seeded 8 slots higher without past history?
 
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melrun78;785902; said:
No, you are right Tron, one had nothing to do with the other. In fact, I bet those seniors totally forgot Matta was ever their coach. And I bet those players he recruited but never coached don't even know who he is.

This was just a game between two teams with absolutely no past history.
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Wow, Matta had coached at XU before :blush:


The fact that Thad had been the head coach of XU 3 years ago had nothing to do with how this game turned out.
XU played a good game and let's leave it at that.
 
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Every single team (at pro, college, or any level) looks for a reason to get their team excited. Every time Joey Porter, Terrell Owens, or Chad Johnson run their mouth the other team uses those as fodder on their bulletin board.

What makes you think this is any different? Whether or not their coach used it to fire up the team they had to be thinking about the fact that their coach left them after he promised he wouldn't go. To say this game was not influenced in some way by the past history between these two teams would be a major oversight.

Yes this is the NCAA tournament where anything can happen but certain games have an extra little spice to them and I think this is one of them.

Just because you want to hold by your original opinion that tOSU would run Xavier doesn't mean you can argue away the fact that this probably had something to do with how the game turned out.

Lets just look at Cage, a senior who was recruited by and played under Matta. He had a career day that included 25 pts, went 8-8 from the floor, hit three 3's even though he only hit 10 all year, and only one turnover. While a team should expect a great performance from a senior this was a fabulous game that I think had a little vengeance behind it.
 
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You didn't ask if it would play a role. You asked if a trash-talking X fan was onto something when he said Matta's actions would doom the buckeyes on saturday. The answer to that question is no.

Since you started this thread, I've believed that a loss would be the product of better execution and effort, not vengeance. For most of the 2nd half, Xavier crushed us in those two departments.
melrun78;786760; said:
Every single team (at pro, college, or any level) looks for a reason to get their team excited.
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Exactly. If there was no 'Matta departure' card, they would have played another one, and been psyched to play OSU.

Did they use this as motivation? Probably... but I think another mid-major with deadly range would have given OSU fits on saturday as well.
To say this game was not influenced in some way by the past history between these two teams would be a major oversight.
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Again, dwelling in pure absolutes.
Just because you want to hold by your original opinion that tOSU would run Xavier doesn't mean you can argue away the fact that this probably had something to do with how the game turned out.
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Don't put words in my mouth... I was wary of the Xavier matchup all along.
 
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jwinslow;785905; said:
Well if we're playing that game of sarcastic absolutes...

How did VCU possibly force OT against an opponent seeded 8 slots higher without past history?
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While lower seeds get fired up to play higher seeds all the time, anyone who really thinks that there wasn't a degree of bad blood as an undercurrent of yesterday's game needs to rethink their thought process.
 
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jwinslow;786765; said:
You didn't ask if it would play a role. You asked if a trash-talking X fan was onto something when he said Matta's actions would doom the buckeyes on saturday. The answer to that question is no.

Since you started this thread, I've believed that a loss would be the product of better execution and effort, not vengeance. For most of the 2nd half, Xavier crushed us in those two departments.
Exactly. If there was no 'Matta departure' card, they would have played another one, and been psyched to play OSU.

Did they use this as motivation? Probably... but I think another mid-major with deadly range would have given OSU fits on saturday as well.
Again, dwelling in pure absolutes.
Don't put words in my mouth... I was wary of the Xavier matchup all along.
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I know this may come as a surprise but not every comment on this board is directed at you. My comments were in response to tron.
 
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