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Why does NONE of this surprise me!

Exactly!

MililaniBuckeye said:
Not meant to be a smart-assed comment, but it's probably because you've seen first-hand how some big-time college football players act.
People are ignorant to think that this stuff doesn't go on everywhere...EVEN the "hallowed grounds" of OSU. Don't be stupid people...Tressel, Geiger nor the NCAA can "police" every player and citizen in the STATE of Ohio. It's impossible!

HAYN
 
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hawaiianbuckeye said:
People are ignorant to think that this stuff doesn't go on everywhere...EVEN the "hallowed grounds" of OSU. Don't be stupid people...Tressel, Geiger nor the NCAA can "police" every player and citizen in the STATE of Ohio. It's impossible!

HAYN
I agree with what you say. I think that the University's responsibility is to "act" when they are aware of an incident.....which they just did.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
If it goes on everywhere, there are 50 something bowl teams and only one starting QB is suspended for taking improper benefits? We need smarter cheaters or more honest players...


...Or....We need to realize that while "this kind of thing goes on everywhere," in some places it is hidden, in others it is reported and discussed at press conferences. The latter method of dealing with these things is more painful, but it is the honest way.
 
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Why OSU? B/C Clarett put us under a microscope!

Onebuckfan said:
If it goes on everywhere, there are 50 something bowl teams and only one starting QB is suspended for taking improper benefits? We need smarter cheaters or more honest players...
I agree. If you're gonna take "bennies" be smart about it!

HAYN
 
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hawaiian,

from a players perspective (I'll rate you All-Time #5 behind Skladany, Tupa, Groom, and Sander-in no particular order) do you think that much of this crap would go away if payers were given per-diem $$ while participating in College Sports. I'm not talking about signing bonuses for $5,000,000 on signing day, I'm talking about giving scholarship players who are in good academic standing about $500 a month in spending money. Would that be enough or would "human nature greed" take over?

I just think that alot of these kids would be kept "in check" so to say if they knew that every month they would have some $$ to buy some clothes, go out for pizza, buy their girlfriend or mom or whoever a birthday present. Let's face it, in the real world $125.00 a week is nothing. But, to a kid who never saw a $100 bill in his life, well, who knows??
 
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It might work....AND Mahalo's!

WoodyWorshiper said:
hawaiian,

from a players perspective (I'll rate you All-Time #5 behind Skladany, Tupa, Groom, and Sander-in no particular order) do you think that much of this crap would go away if payers were given per-diem $$ while participating in College Sports. I'm not talking about signing bonuses for $5,000,000 on signing day, I'm talking about giving scholarship players who are in good academic standing about $500 a month in spending money. Would that be enough or would "human nature greed" take over?

I just think that alot of these kids would be kept "in check" so to say if they knew that every month they would have some $$ to buy some clothes, go out for pizza, buy their girlfriend or mom or whoever a birthday present. Let's face it, in the real world $125.00 a week is nothing. But, to a kid who never saw a $100 bill in his life, well, who knows??
It might help who knows? I like your idea of only getting the money if you're in good academic standing, that's great! It's an incentive to do well in the class room too! I think it might work. BUT as you said, human greed is powerful. However, are we not already seeing that? There will NEVER be a clear-cut solution in my opinion.

As for your punters: you forgot one...Bartholomew. It's nice to know that you put my "pupils" ahead of me. Isn't it supposed to be like that anyway? I tutored Bartholomew, Groom and Sander. AND ALL three had better careers than myself. If they surpass your accomplishments I think it says a lot about your teaching abilities and desire to help the next generation. I just taught them everything I learned AFTER college, stuff I didn't know back then. Obviously it helped!!! You don't know how happy I was to see all of them perform the way they did. Especially Groom and Sander becoming All Americans! That was sweet and made me feel good! So thank you for the compliments.

HAYN
 
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hawaiianbuckeye said:
It might help who knows? I like your idea of only getting the money if you're in good academic standing, that's great! It's an incentive to do well in the class room too! I think it might work. BUT as you said, human greed is powerful. However, are we not already seeing that? There will NEVER be a clear-cut solution in my opinion.

HAYN
Unfortunately that open another can of worms in academic fraud. That is too big a liabilty and could cause even bigger issues than we are seeing now.
 
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just think that alot of these kids would be kept "in check" so to say if they knew that every month they would have some $$ to buy some clothes, go out for pizza, buy their girlfriend or mom or whoever a birthday present. Let's face it, in the real world $125.00 a week is nothing. But, to a kid who never saw a $100 bill in his life, well, who knows??

If you live off-campus, you get a monthly check of about $1350 to cover living "expenses" and food, etc. If you live with a couple guys, you're paying about $400/month in rent & utilities, and maybe $100 in food. Trust me, they have plenty of money left over every month for clothes and beer.

This isn't a case of a poor kid seeing $$$. It's about a greedy kid that didn't think he'd get caught.
 
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Why do kids think there entitled tomore than a scolarship?

To play football and get a degree at OSU will set you up for life. TS should know that a few Franklins now mean nothing. An ex-Buckeye, or for that matter an ex-spartan, ex-Illini can use playing football in the Big 10 and parlay that into a lifetime of success without ever seeing the NFL. ie. Herbstreit and many successful businessmen, etc. Just being an ex-athlete can open doors closed to most graduates.
 
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CleveBucks said:
If you live off-campus, you get a monthly check of about $1350 to cover living "expenses" and food, etc. If you live with a couple guys, you're paying about $400/month in rent & utilities, and maybe $100 in food. Trust me, they have plenty of money left over every month for clothes and beer.

This isn't a case of a poor kid seeing $$$. It's about a greedy kid that didn't think he'd get caught.

Holy hell.
As a living example of a broke ass college student, I would kill for 1350 per month.
Lets see, my rent is 360, i probably spend 250 a month on all food expenses, and 100 total for all utilities. Thats only 710 bucks!!
Oh man what I could do with an extra 640 a month...........
(at 7.99 for a 15 pack of Strohs, I could purchase 80 packs!!! w00t)
 
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