tibor75
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to the crowd during the late 90s/2000? I think the Dispatch did an article about him, but I can't find it. I don't think he ever played...maybe once in garbage time.
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TheStoicPaisano
But I didn't, so it doesn't
Blah. Maurice Lee was the designated hypeman for the 2002 team. He had grade problems and couldn't crack the lineup at CB or WR, but he got the team siked up. Then you have Thomas Matthews, another guy who barely got PT but was inspirational.
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tibor75
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this is odd. the play by play for the OSU/INdiana game in 1998 on the official OSU site has John Bates playing a lot....
O 1-10 O25 OHIO STATE drive start at 06:37 (2nd).
O 1-10 O25 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 12 yards to the OS37, 1ST DOWN OS (O.J.
Spencer).
O 1-10 O37 John Bates pass incomplete to Matt Keller (Greg Yeldell).
O 2-10 O37 John Bates pass incomplete to John Lumpkin, dropped pass.
O 3-10 O37 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 16 yards to the IN47, 1ST DOWN OS (C.
Randle El).
O 1-10 I47 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 13 yards to the IN34, 1ST DOWN OS,
out-of-bounds.
O 1-10 I34 Michael Wiley rush for 5 yards to the IN29 (Greg Yeldell,Justin Smith).
O 2-5 I29 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 14 yards to the IN15, 1ST DOWN OS.
O 1-10 I15 Michael Wiley rush for 1 yard to the IN14 (Justin Smith).
O 2-9 I14 Michael Wiley rush for 5 yards to the IN9 (Michael McGrath).
O 3-4 I09 Michael Wiley rush for 3 yards to the IN6 (Jabar Robinson,Greg Yeldell).
O 4-1 I06 Timeout OS, clock 02:45.
O 4-1 I06 John Lumpkin pass from John Bates for 6 yards to the IN0, 1ST DOWN OS,
TOUCHDOWN, clock 02:41.
Dan Stultz kick attempt good.
O 1-10 O25 OHIO STATE drive start at 06:37 (2nd).
O 1-10 O25 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 12 yards to the OS37, 1ST DOWN OS (O.J.
Spencer).
O 1-10 O37 John Bates pass incomplete to Matt Keller (Greg Yeldell).
O 2-10 O37 John Bates pass incomplete to John Lumpkin, dropped pass.
O 3-10 O37 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 16 yards to the IN47, 1ST DOWN OS (C.
Randle El).
O 1-10 I47 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 13 yards to the IN34, 1ST DOWN OS,
out-of-bounds.
O 1-10 I34 Michael Wiley rush for 5 yards to the IN29 (Greg Yeldell,Justin Smith).
O 2-5 I29 Dee Miller pass from John Bates for 14 yards to the IN15, 1ST DOWN OS.
O 1-10 I15 Michael Wiley rush for 1 yard to the IN14 (Justin Smith).
O 2-9 I14 Michael Wiley rush for 5 yards to the IN9 (Michael McGrath).
O 3-4 I09 Michael Wiley rush for 3 yards to the IN6 (Jabar Robinson,Greg Yeldell).
O 4-1 I06 Timeout OS, clock 02:45.
O 4-1 I06 John Lumpkin pass from John Bates for 6 yards to the IN0, 1ST DOWN OS,
TOUCHDOWN, clock 02:41.
Dan Stultz kick attempt good.
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tibor75
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nothing other than he was a huge cheerleader. He was actually quite amazing. he waved that towel at least 100 times a game. We had seats near that end of the stadium so we noticed him all the time. it was funny when the Dispatch article came out as it appeared others noticed him too.
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BATES TRIES TO LURE FANS INTO THE GAME
Thursday, October 28, 1999
SPORTS 01E
By Rob Oller
Dispatch Sports Reporter
At the start of the football season, John Bates' arms feel like dead tree limbs ready to fall.
"At the beginning of the year, on Sunday mornings I wake up and it's like, 'Oh, my shoulders are so sore.' But as the season goes on, I get into shape and I'm better at it,'' the Ohio State senior offensive lineman said.
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BATES TRIES TO LURE FANS INTO THE GAME
Thursday, October 28, 1999
SPORTS 01E
By Rob Oller
Dispatch Sports Reporter
At the start of the football season, John Bates' arms feel like dead tree limbs ready to fall.
"At the beginning of the year, on Sunday mornings I wake up and it's like, 'Oh, my shoulders are so sore.' But as the season goes on, I get into shape and I'm better at it,'' the Ohio State senior offensive lineman said.
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
So, Tibor, does your research indicate the Indiana sucks os bad that one of our OL can play QB and lead the team to a TD drive? I'm confused....
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<CENTER> </CENTER><CENTER>Copyright 1999 The Columbus Dispatch
Columbus Dispatch (Ohio)</CENTER><CENTER>
October 28, 1999, Thursday</CENTER>
SECTION: SPORTS, Pg. 1E
LENGTH: 584 words
HEADLINE: BATES TRIES TO LURE FANS INTO THE GAME THE SENIOR OFFENSIVE TACKLE SPENDS HOME GAMES WAVING HIS ARMS TO FIRE UP THECROWD.
BYLINE: Rob Oller, Dispatch Sports Reporter
BODY:
At the start of the football season, John Bates' arms feel like dead tree limbs ready to fall.
"At the beginning of the year, on Sunday mornings I wake up and it's like, 'Oh, my shoulders are so sore.' But as the season goes on, I get into shape and I'm better at it,'' the Ohio State senior offensive lineman said.
This isn't your typical muscle fatigue. Bates doesn't arm-wrestle defensive tackles on Saturday afternoons or pass block for the quarterback.
He waves at the fans.
And waves and waves and waves.
As long as Ohio State's defense is on the field, Bates can be spotted with his back often turned to the action, revving the crowd in the Horseshoe.
Bates seldom plays -- four games in four years, the last appearance in the final moments against UCLA this season -- yet he is as visible as any OSU offensive lineman. While teammates toil in the trenches, Bates whoops it up behind the benches.
It started innocently enough at the 1996 Rose Bowl.
"Toward the end of it, I turned around and started waving my arms and it started working,'' said Bates, who has one year of eligibility remaining. "It grew from there.''
And grew quickly. Bates, who does not travel with the team except for bowl games, first raised the roof in Ohio Stadium against Iowa two years ago. Six games later, he was being chanted into the game, a phenomenon that happens whenever Buckeyes fans smell a blowout. Needless to say, the chants have been scarce this season.
Still, Bates has his followers. Fans
behind the OSU bench have dubbed their section The Bates Motel, and they always cheer for their man.
Ohio State players, at least those who play offense, know all about it.
"I always hear people yelling, 'Put John in. We want Bates,' '' tailback Derek Combs said. "You should have seen it at the last home game. I saw fans with BATES written across their chests. Fans love Bates.''
And players appreciate the walk- on from Cherry Hill, N.J.
"It's great to have somebody who doesn't get to play that much just so pumped up and enthused for the game,'' Combs said. "It cheers us up and the fans, too.''
Bates would love to have more playing time but isn't one to pout about his lack of participation. He was a two-year starter in high school but quickly learned that his playing days were pretty much over when he got a look at the likes of Orlando Pace.
"I started running scout team and come game day I had nothing to do. (Interacting with the crowd) became a way to keep me into the game. The defense needs the help and the crowd cheering helps,'' he said.
Bates takes great pride in being more than a 6-foot-4, 279-pound cheerleader.
"You see Brent (Johnson) or Rodney (Bailey) getting a tackle or a sack and it was like I prepared him for that. He wasn't getting sacks against me all week and now he gets one in the game. It's like you got him ready, so I take just as much in him taking the sack as he does.''
Bates has three Buckeye leaves on his helmet, one for being named scout team player of the week -- "The other two they haven't told me what for'' -- so he knows how to practice.
He's at his best, though, come game time.
Bates added a new wrinkle to the two-year routine earlier this season when he grabbed a towel and waved it.
"I broke it out for the Big Ten season,'' he said, adding that the use of a towel was premeditated.
Bates obviously has thought this thing out.
He has his act together -- and is just waiting to take it on the road.
GRAPHIC: Phot, Mike Munden / Dispatch John Bates spends his time exhorting the crowd rather than playing offensive tackle for the Buckeyes
LOAD-DATE: October 29, 1999
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Columbus Dispatch (Ohio)</CENTER><CENTER>
October 28, 1999, Thursday</CENTER>
SECTION: SPORTS, Pg. 1E
LENGTH: 584 words
HEADLINE: BATES TRIES TO LURE FANS INTO THE GAME THE SENIOR OFFENSIVE TACKLE SPENDS HOME GAMES WAVING HIS ARMS TO FIRE UP THECROWD.
BYLINE: Rob Oller, Dispatch Sports Reporter
BODY:
At the start of the football season, John Bates' arms feel like dead tree limbs ready to fall.
"At the beginning of the year, on Sunday mornings I wake up and it's like, 'Oh, my shoulders are so sore.' But as the season goes on, I get into shape and I'm better at it,'' the Ohio State senior offensive lineman said.
This isn't your typical muscle fatigue. Bates doesn't arm-wrestle defensive tackles on Saturday afternoons or pass block for the quarterback.
He waves at the fans.
And waves and waves and waves.
As long as Ohio State's defense is on the field, Bates can be spotted with his back often turned to the action, revving the crowd in the Horseshoe.
Bates seldom plays -- four games in four years, the last appearance in the final moments against UCLA this season -- yet he is as visible as any OSU offensive lineman. While teammates toil in the trenches, Bates whoops it up behind the benches.
It started innocently enough at the 1996 Rose Bowl.
"Toward the end of it, I turned around and started waving my arms and it started working,'' said Bates, who has one year of eligibility remaining. "It grew from there.''
And grew quickly. Bates, who does not travel with the team except for bowl games, first raised the roof in Ohio Stadium against Iowa two years ago. Six games later, he was being chanted into the game, a phenomenon that happens whenever Buckeyes fans smell a blowout. Needless to say, the chants have been scarce this season.
Still, Bates has his followers. Fans
behind the OSU bench have dubbed their section The Bates Motel, and they always cheer for their man.
Ohio State players, at least those who play offense, know all about it.
"I always hear people yelling, 'Put John in. We want Bates,' '' tailback Derek Combs said. "You should have seen it at the last home game. I saw fans with BATES written across their chests. Fans love Bates.''
And players appreciate the walk- on from Cherry Hill, N.J.
"It's great to have somebody who doesn't get to play that much just so pumped up and enthused for the game,'' Combs said. "It cheers us up and the fans, too.''
Bates would love to have more playing time but isn't one to pout about his lack of participation. He was a two-year starter in high school but quickly learned that his playing days were pretty much over when he got a look at the likes of Orlando Pace.
"I started running scout team and come game day I had nothing to do. (Interacting with the crowd) became a way to keep me into the game. The defense needs the help and the crowd cheering helps,'' he said.
Bates takes great pride in being more than a 6-foot-4, 279-pound cheerleader.
"You see Brent (Johnson) or Rodney (Bailey) getting a tackle or a sack and it was like I prepared him for that. He wasn't getting sacks against me all week and now he gets one in the game. It's like you got him ready, so I take just as much in him taking the sack as he does.''
Bates has three Buckeye leaves on his helmet, one for being named scout team player of the week -- "The other two they haven't told me what for'' -- so he knows how to practice.
He's at his best, though, come game time.
Bates added a new wrinkle to the two-year routine earlier this season when he grabbed a towel and waved it.
"I broke it out for the Big Ten season,'' he said, adding that the use of a towel was premeditated.
Bates obviously has thought this thing out.
He has his act together -- and is just waiting to take it on the road.
GRAPHIC: Phot, Mike Munden / Dispatch John Bates spends his time exhorting the crowd rather than playing offensive tackle for the Buckeyes
LOAD-DATE: October 29, 1999
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
yeah, that's the one. Damn money grubbing Dispatch.
If its the same guy I remember, he wasn't a quarterback. He was offensive line, or something. I don't remember another John Bates. And we sat at the other side of the field, and still paid attention to him. I didn't know there were articles in the dispatch about him. I always wondered if he got a new towel every game, and was it washed between games? Or maybe he wore the towels out so quickly that he had to get a new one every quarter, or something.
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diehardbuckeye
All-American
I had English 111 with him. He was a great guy and a good student. We were assigned a group project together and he took on the hardest part of the project. We did get an A on it too. The Lantern ran an article about him about a year before this Dispatch one. The next day our TA came in and razzed him about it.
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JENGA!
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A little more of the story
I was actually a part of him getting in the game.
A friend who also participated sent me a link to this story and since I never get any credit am not going to pass up the opportunity to tell my side.
Me, my friend Sean and his twin brother Chris (names changed to protect identity) all had seats behind the OSU bench that weren't real great. Good field position, not high enough to see past the team on the near side.
There were two guys to our right, one of which worked for the Lantern. He noticed Bates first. This was during the first game of the season when most of the students were not on campus yet. Lantern guy pointed the towel out to his buddy and I kind of latched on to it from there.
Every game we would run up the score (I think we beat Rice 70-3 that year, or something like that). Naturally, we started chanting to help Bates along. He had a whole repertoire of moves. There was the towel in a circle over his head, the back and forth, the side to side. Then he would do the hush for when the QB went under center and the raise the roof when the team did well.
John Bates was number 72 if I remember correctly. I think he may have been a walk on. He was a offensive guard.
We had our own variety of cheers to work on too. I would yell 'gimme a "B" and the crowd would reply "BEEE" and we would finish spelling out his name. The fist time the section did that one they kind of looked back at me funny when I said "what does it spell?" a tentative "bates?" was the reply. Needless to say it caught on. At one point a few games later somebody walked down from another section to tell me that it had spread up to about section 29. I think we were in section 17. They were doing most of the same cheers and some of their own.
The big moment was about the 9th game of the year. I think it was a night game. We were naturally up by like 45 on Purdue. It was about 5 minutes left in the game and they were driving the ball at about their own 45. Cooper could hear the cheers and he kind of looked at an assistant and seemed to be asking a question. He looked at a roster and said something to the assistant. Next thing we know, Bates is putting his helmet on and moving from the bench to the sideline. Coach put his arm around Bates' shoulder, spoke in his ear and patted him on the butt as he ran into the defensive huddle. It was hard to tell what happened during the play, we were looking at it from the end of the line and couldn't make him out. It was a run play that didn't get far for the other team. The pile unpiled and Bates started jogging to the sideline. The sideline started waving him back out, he was in for another play! We stopped that one too. It was time for special teams and he came out.
After the game the Lanter guy went down to the sideline and did an impromptu interview. Lantern guy came back into the stands and told me that John was very appreciative and he got knocked on his butt that first play. (he is an Offensive lineman playing Defense after all) I think there was a story in the Lantern later that week that went over serveral seldom playing individuals accomplishments/contirbutions.
I tell everybody I know, including you guys, this story. I have a really big mouth. A really loud mouth. My voice carries. If you ever meet me or have seen a guy in a bar that seems to be talking in a conversational tone but you can understand him 600 yards away you know what kind of voice I have.
I have never taken the opportunity to review recorded facts. I only ever go by my memories which are admittedly very fuzzy for names, dates, places. Maybe if I down another 12 pack of Bud Light the state dependent memory will kick in and I can come up with some more details. But for now, this is a pretty good accounting of how it happened according to what I do remember.
Without me the Lantern guy's cheering would never have taken root and John Bates would very possibly never had a story to tell his grandkids and I wouldn't either.
Mike 'JENGA! Dodane
I was actually a part of him getting in the game.
A friend who also participated sent me a link to this story and since I never get any credit am not going to pass up the opportunity to tell my side.
Me, my friend Sean and his twin brother Chris (names changed to protect identity) all had seats behind the OSU bench that weren't real great. Good field position, not high enough to see past the team on the near side.
There were two guys to our right, one of which worked for the Lantern. He noticed Bates first. This was during the first game of the season when most of the students were not on campus yet. Lantern guy pointed the towel out to his buddy and I kind of latched on to it from there.
Every game we would run up the score (I think we beat Rice 70-3 that year, or something like that). Naturally, we started chanting to help Bates along. He had a whole repertoire of moves. There was the towel in a circle over his head, the back and forth, the side to side. Then he would do the hush for when the QB went under center and the raise the roof when the team did well.
John Bates was number 72 if I remember correctly. I think he may have been a walk on. He was a offensive guard.
We had our own variety of cheers to work on too. I would yell 'gimme a "B" and the crowd would reply "BEEE" and we would finish spelling out his name. The fist time the section did that one they kind of looked back at me funny when I said "what does it spell?" a tentative "bates?" was the reply. Needless to say it caught on. At one point a few games later somebody walked down from another section to tell me that it had spread up to about section 29. I think we were in section 17. They were doing most of the same cheers and some of their own.
The big moment was about the 9th game of the year. I think it was a night game. We were naturally up by like 45 on Purdue. It was about 5 minutes left in the game and they were driving the ball at about their own 45. Cooper could hear the cheers and he kind of looked at an assistant and seemed to be asking a question. He looked at a roster and said something to the assistant. Next thing we know, Bates is putting his helmet on and moving from the bench to the sideline. Coach put his arm around Bates' shoulder, spoke in his ear and patted him on the butt as he ran into the defensive huddle. It was hard to tell what happened during the play, we were looking at it from the end of the line and couldn't make him out. It was a run play that didn't get far for the other team. The pile unpiled and Bates started jogging to the sideline. The sideline started waving him back out, he was in for another play! We stopped that one too. It was time for special teams and he came out.
After the game the Lanter guy went down to the sideline and did an impromptu interview. Lantern guy came back into the stands and told me that John was very appreciative and he got knocked on his butt that first play. (he is an Offensive lineman playing Defense after all) I think there was a story in the Lantern later that week that went over serveral seldom playing individuals accomplishments/contirbutions.
I tell everybody I know, including you guys, this story. I have a really big mouth. A really loud mouth. My voice carries. If you ever meet me or have seen a guy in a bar that seems to be talking in a conversational tone but you can understand him 600 yards away you know what kind of voice I have.
I have never taken the opportunity to review recorded facts. I only ever go by my memories which are admittedly very fuzzy for names, dates, places. Maybe if I down another 12 pack of Bud Light the state dependent memory will kick in and I can come up with some more details. But for now, this is a pretty good accounting of how it happened according to what I do remember.
Without me the Lantern guy's cheering would never have taken root and John Bates would very possibly never had a story to tell his grandkids and I wouldn't either.
Mike 'JENGA! Dodane
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