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Who now for the title game?

Woody1968;659524; said:
If Rutgers goes undefeated and isn't ranked #2 at the end of the regular season, there is something seriously wrong with the current system. I knew there would be problems when they tweaked the BCS after the season in which the Human pollsters had USC #1 and The BCS had Oklahoma and LSU in the championship game. IMHO the BCS had it right. Not to mention the fact that Despite undefeated tOSU playing against Miami and beating them the year before, the system was tweaked because many idiots maintained that tOSU did not deserve to be playing for the MNC. The Big East is still a BCS conference. It is better than the ACC, it is arguably on par with the Pac-10. An undefeated Big East Champion has more of a right to play than a 1 loss champion from another BCS Conference - period.

That's what I said in the first place!!!!
 
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What do we need polls for? Just take the major conference teams and sort them by losses.

Does anyone believe that Rutgers versus USC on a neutral field would be anything less than a 14 point dog? I thought the whole idea of the BCS system was to determine who the best team was. At the end of the day if you don't believe Rutgers is the honest to gosh second best team available vote for somebody else. Anything less is a travesty.

Once Miami, BC and Va Tech the Big East became a BCS conference in name only.
 
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When will they get this BCS thing right??? Personally, it seems SOOOO simple. I think the BCS should be used to determine who gets the chance to play OSU each year. Obviously, being the most righteous team in all of college football, the Buckeyes should have an automatic bid to the NC game. Seems fair to me!
 
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Oh8ch;659752; said:
What do we need polls for? Just take the major conference teams and sort them by losses.

Does anyone believe that Rutgers versus USC on a neutral field would be anything less than a 14 point dog? I thought the whole idea of the BCS system was to determine who the best team was. At the end of the day if you don't believe Rutgers is the honest to gosh second best team available vote for somebody else. Anything less is a travesty.

Once Miami, BC and Va Tech the Big East became a BCS conference in name only.

Well, I think that WVU, Rutgers, Louisville and Pitt are all decent teams. To be honest, I think the Big East is a better conference than the ACC, where Miami, VT and BC are now. But the Big East was considered a joke even with those teams, and Miami/VT never suffered for it when they ran the table in that league.

As for USC vs. Rutgers on a neutral field, I don't know if I would favor USC. None of the 1 loss teams has partcularly impressed me much. I don't rank based on spreads, either. I recall that Louisville was favored to beat Rutgers and didn't get the job done. Maybe I remember 2002, when there were plenty of people arguing that tOSU didn't deserve to be playing for the MNC, because the Big 10 was down and there were other teams that would have beat us, including a 9 and 2 USC. Rutgers reminds me of that team in a way, so yes. Right now, I would rank them 3rd, behind tOSU and scUM.
 
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Here's a different tack for this discussion. Presuming a win on Saturday, here's how badly I think we beat each of the following in the BCS title game:

USC - by 7
TSUN rematch - by 10
Arkansas - by 14
Florida - by 17
Notre Dame - by 24
Rutgers - by 28
WVU - by 31

I'll admit that I wouldn't put money on a few of those spreads, but I really don't think they're far off. WVU has no D, Florida is beat up, Rutgers is a plucky team but doesn't have the athletes, ND is still too slow in the secondary as USC will reveal, I don't think M_chigan does any better at a neutral site than here, and Arky has some offense but we still score our points. USC is the only team in the country that I think can make it a close game, though I'd take OSU and the 7.
 
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methomps;659722; said:
So would you be voicing support for an undefeated Rutgers over a barely-lost-to-Michigan tOSU?

I will admit to not being too keen on the idea of a rematch of the season-ending rivalry game. If the unexpected occurs on Saturday, though, I'm sure I'll warm up to the idea in a hurry. :tongue2:
 
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If Rutgers wins out, they should be in the BCS Championship game. Both Louisville and WVU were at one time ranked #3,and both teams only have one loss. If Rutgers takes care of WVU and remains undefeated, I can't see how they don't get the bid.
 
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I actually think Florida has the inside track in terms of win and they're in, because everyone yanks themselves over their schedule (and they do have a tough schedule, though a lot of those teams don't look nearly as good now). Since I think they'll lose again, it will be the winner of ND/USC unless they both lose. I think Rutgers is moot because they won't win in Morgantown. Arkansas is the wild card, because it's hard to say how their schedule points and all of that would factor in, but 1-loss WVU, Arkansas, and Notre Dame would be really interesting and close (1-loss USC I think gets it for sure).
 
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Rematch?

1. Notre Dame is out, they shouldn't be considered, no matter what. Notre Dame got BLOWN OUT by scUM at Notre Dame. If scUm loses @ tOSU, how could you put Notre Dame in a head of scUM? If scUM beats tOSU in a close game, how could you put Notre Dame in ahead of tOSU? No need to include Notre Dame in this discussion, not only would a 1 loss SEC champ belong in front of them, but the winner of tOSU Michigan game would HAVE to be put in front of them.

2. Book a rematch of THE GAME if the following happens:
Cal beats USC
USC beats Notre Dame
LSU beats Arkansas
Arkansas Beats Fla in the SEC Champ game.
If I am correct that takes all 1 loss teams except those in the big least to 2 losses.
Now if WVU beats Rutgers that means that any "contenders" from the big least have at least 1 loss.
So you can take either a 2 loss team, a 1 loss big least team, or a team thats only loss was in a rivalry game to the best team in the country (tOSU, or scUM)

Even if the above games don't work out as above, a rematch is still possible, certainly if tOSU only wins by a field goal, or a last second play. Do I like it?? Not if tOSU wins on Saturday, but if we lost, damn straight I would want another shot.
 
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