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Who goes pro? 2016 edition

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OhioState001

OhioState001

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Although we have a really young team I unfortunately see another big loss of players to the NFL

I've got:

Samuel
Hooker
Conley
Lattimore
McMillan
Lewis

I have no idea what is in Barrett's head right now. He obviously needs to improve in some areas but is he capable of being a 6th round pick and making a roster for a few years? Probably. Is that good enough for him?

I'm not sure where Lewis and McMillan rate as far as draft position but I would guess high. It would be nice to keep one of Conley and Lattimore so we don't lose all our stud defensive backs at once, but I think they are both in the first two rounds.
 
Agree with all those listed. I think Samuel and Hooker could benefit from another year but they're obviously first round talents so they go.

It would be great to see a few guys return (a la Alabama. Seriously, why do they return so much top talent even after they're draft eligible?) I just don't see it. Going to be rough losing so many guys in the secondary again. I know people talk about reloading, but you can only do that so often in a short time.

If Barrett goes I'd be surprised to see him drafted. Love the guy, he's been a great player for OSU, but I just don't see a team using a draft pick on him right now.
 
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Some other names who will consider:

Noah Brown, Jalyn Holmes, Sam Hubbard, Chris Worley, Marcus Baugh. Hubbard will likely get a high draft grade.

Bill Price still has a year of eligibility remaining, but like Pat Elflein, I expect him to return as the rare 5th-year senior.
 
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OhioState001 said:
Although we have a really young team I unfortunately see another big loss of players to the NFL

I've got:

Samuel
Hooker
Conley
Lattimore
McMillan
Lewis

I have no idea what is in Barrett's head right now. He obviously needs to improve in some areas but is he capable of being a 6th round pick and making a roster for a few years? Probably. Is that good enough for him?

I'm not sure where Lewis and McMillan rate as far as draft position but I would guess high. It would be nice to keep one of Conley and Lattimore so we don't lose all our stud defensive backs at once, but I think they are both in the first two rounds.
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Hooker and Lattimore are near locks to go...Hooker is a guaranteed first rounder and Lattimore is borderline.

McMillan is likely gone as well and probably in the 2nd-3rd round.

I'm not sure Samuel is a first rounder (not a pure RB, not a pure slot) but I think he's a second round pick as well. Probably gone.

Conley is likely a 3rd/4th if he goes so he could improve his stock. I'd put him at 50/50.

Lewis will have a tough call...prob a mid rounder who can raise his profile. I think he should return but we'll see.

I believe Hubbard's combine will elevate his status.....he's more likely than Lewis IMO. I see Hubbard as a potential late first rounder based on measurables and ceiling.

I see Jalyn Holmes returning as well. Like Lewis, he has an opportunity to increase his stock by multiple rounds with a big year. I think he'd be in the 4th round range.

I don't see Barrett going pro, unless the coaching staff actually suggests he make the leap. Which sounds ridiculous, but if they believe Burrow gives them a better chance of success next year based on what they're seeing in practice and mop-up time, I could see them saving everyone the QB competition and ensuing circus, and just letting JT know its time. Otherwise, I don't see JT going. I don't want this to come off as crass, but he does not have NFL tools (lacks arm strength, lacks accuracy, lacks touch, doesn't have ideal size). Great leader and college QB, but it is what it is. I expect to see him in Columbus next year.

I do not see Worley, Baugh, or Noah Brown leaving. Each of these guys has the ability to dramatically improve their stock next year. The risk of leaving and getting taken in a late round, and then fighting for a roster spot, does not seem worth the reward. It's unfortunate, but for 2/3rds of the guys in this group, a good OC would make them a lot of $$$$

I also see Billy Price returning....maybe that changes if he goes out a champion.
 
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billmac91 said:
Hooker and Lattimore are near locks to go...Hooker is a guaranteed first rounder and Lattimore is borderline.

McMillan is likely gone as well and probably in the 2nd-3rd round.

I'm not sure Samuel is a first rounder (not a pure RB, not a pure slot) but I think he's a second round pick as well. Probably gone.

Conley is likely a 3rd/4th if he goes so he could improve his stock. I'd put him at 50/50.

Lewis will have a tough call...prob a mid rounder who can raise his profile. I think he should return but we'll see.

I believe Hubbard's combine will elevate his status.....he's more likely than Lewis IMO. I see Hubbard as a potential late first rounder based on measurables and ceiling.

I see Jalyn Holmes returning as well. Like Lewis, he has an opportunity to increase his stock by multiple rounds with a big year. I think he'd be in the 4th round range.

I don't see Barrett going pro, unless the coaching staff actually suggests he make the leap. Which sounds ridiculous, but if they believe Burrow gives them a better chance of success next year based on what they're seeing in practice and mop-up time, I could see them saving everyone the QB competition and ensuing circus, and just letting JT know its time. Otherwise, I don't see JT going. I don't want this to come off as crass, but he does not have NFL tools (lacks arm strength, lacks accuracy, lacks touch, doesn't have ideal size). Great leader and college QB, but it is what it is. I expect to see him in Columbus next year.

I do not see Worley, Baugh, or Noah Brown leaving. Each of these guys has the ability to dramatically improve their stock next year. The risk of leaving and getting taken in a late round, and then fighting for a roster spot, does not seem worth the reward. It's unfortunate, but for 2/3rds of the guys in this group, a good OC would make them a lot of $$$$

I also see Billy Price returning....maybe that changes if he goes out a champion.
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Is Samuel a third down back in the NFl?
 
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Thump said:
Is Samuel a third down back in the NFl?
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NFL has adjusted to what college does (in terms of spread offenses and horizontal passing games).

In short, the NFL doesn't really stick to the primary RB on 1st and 2nd down, and then a primary 3rd down back. You can look all across the NFL and find situational backs (2nd and long, 2nd and short, 3rd and long, 3rd and short, etc). I do believe Samuel is a RB at the next level (doesn't have clean hands and route running is suspect).

He's versatile enough for a team that can spend a pick on an explosive playmaker, to reach in the second on a guy they have to get semi-creative with. It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't for Curtis. He isn't a pure RB so it hurts a bit, and he isn't a pure slot receiver, which hurts a bit.

The good news for him, is he's an intelligent kid, can play special teams if need be early on, and is a willing blocker when needed. Lastly, and I hate to be that guy, imagine Samuel getting all the touches Braxton received last year. We were loyal to a fault.....not a bad thing because how we handled his situation mattered....but I regret not seeing more split RB backfields with Zeke and Samuel. Really woulda been special.
 
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WoodyWorshiper said:
Hooker and Lattimore are not draft eligible.

Peace
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My bad on this one, I guess. I went to the official Buckeye roster at www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com and saw both were listed as sophomores. Didn't look close enough that ones stipulated on there as RS were only the freshmen so and went and did that "assume" thing that since there was no RS attached to them that they were "true."

I probably should apologize here but I won't. You guys know me, probably all too well:oh:

Peace
 
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billmac91 said:
Hooker and Lattimore are near locks to go...Hooker is a guaranteed first rounder and Lattimore is borderline.

McMillan is likely gone as well and probably in the 2nd-3rd round.

I'm not sure Samuel is a first rounder (not a pure RB, not a pure slot) but I think he's a second round pick as well. Probably gone.

Conley is likely a 3rd/4th if he goes so he could improve his stock. I'd put him at 50/50.

Lewis will have a tough call...prob a mid rounder who can raise his profile. I think he should return but we'll see.

I believe Hubbard's combine will elevate his status.....he's more likely than Lewis IMO. I see Hubbard as a potential late first rounder based on measurables and ceiling.

I see Jalyn Holmes returning as well. Like Lewis, he has an opportunity to increase his stock by multiple rounds with a big year. I think he'd be in the 4th round range.

I don't see Barrett going pro, unless the coaching staff actually suggests he make the leap. Which sounds ridiculous, but if they believe Burrow gives them a better chance of success next year based on what they're seeing in practice and mop-up time, I could see them saving everyone the QB competition and ensuing circus, and just letting JT know its time. Otherwise, I don't see JT going. I don't want this to come off as crass, but he does not have NFL tools (lacks arm strength, lacks accuracy, lacks touch, doesn't have ideal size). Great leader and college QB, but it is what it is. I expect to see him in Columbus next year.

I do not see Worley, Baugh, or Noah Brown leaving. Each of these guys has the ability to dramatically improve their stock next year. The risk of leaving and getting taken in a late round, and then fighting for a roster spot, does not seem worth the reward. It's unfortunate, but for 2/3rds of the guys in this group, a good OC would make them a lot of $$$$

I also see Billy Price returning....maybe that changes if he goes out a champion.
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I agree with just about everything except Hubbard. Unless he blows it out of the water at the combine, I don't think he's had enough production to go that high. Plus, he's still learning the position and just a redshirt soph. A big year next year pushes him into the 1st-2nd rounds.

Lewis on the other hand is in a situation similar to Tyvis Powell was in last year. He's a solid player with a limited ceiling who's started 2 years. The only reason for him to come back is if he wants to compete for an NC. His draft stock likely isn't changing much with another year.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
I agree with just about everything except Hubbard. Unless he blows it out of the water at the combine I don't think he's had enough production to go that high. Plus, he's still learning the position and just a redshirt soph. A big year next year pushes him into the 1st-2nd rounds.

Lewis on the other hand is in a situation similar to Tyvis Powell was in last year. He's a solid player with a limited ceiling who's started 2 years. The only reason for him to come back is if he wants to compete for an NC. His draft stock likely isn't changing much with another year.
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Sam is a special athlete. He will blow his combine out of the water. People are going to salivate over his change of direction speed for a guy his size. And as you said, he's still learning his position, which works in his favor among scouts/GM's. His ceiling is going to be seen as extremely high.....get ready for McShay and Kiper to use "high-upside" a million times discussing him.

I'm not saying Hubbard will go, but if he does, a team will reach on him even though the production will not match where he is being taken.
 
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I think who goes

1. Kwon
2. Conley
3. Lattimore
4. Samuel

I think Hooker may surprise us and return. Having only played for a short period of time and also being a first year contributor I feel may get him back here.

I believe JT may go pro but if he does he will go undrafted and he may want to stick around to get his degree
 
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