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No love for Corny??? Blasphemy.
The Game is miles away from what it was only 10 years ago so comparison is unfair. Justin's heart was Krenzelesque but CJs accuracy is unbelievable. When we were still a running team Bobby Hoying was off the charts and no one was as cool as Jermaine. Yet JTB had unbeatable records. It's been a hell of a ride I'll say that!
The Game is miles away from what it was only 10 years ago so comparison is unfair. Justin's heart was Krenzelesque but CJs accuracy is unbelievable. When we were still a running team Bobby Hoying was off the charts and no one was as cool as Jermaine. Yet JTB had unbeatable records. It's been a hell of a ride I'll say that!
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Love Corny Greene
If we did separate categories for
Best Running Quarterback
and
Best Passer
Flam would give Braxton Miller a run for his money, no pun intended. He might even take the honors in that first category among old guys who value the ability to execute the option, which Flam did better than any I’ve seen
Flam’s recent protests to the contrary notwithstanding, I do not remember him as a particularly impressive passer
It all comes down to the impossibility of comparing eras, but for me it comes down to this. Among quarterbacks going back as far as Bob Griese, who even predates Flam, THEY say that the primary criteria in QB evaluation are: “Does he throw it accurately and on time”. I’ve heard enough quarterbacks say it that I have adopted it, but I’ve added the Tressel criterion… toughness.
As for that killer instinct… how differently would we see Stroud if TCUN hadn’t cheated?
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Wow, really depends on the criteria, I reckon. Best in college? Best in pros? Best stats? Best at driving the team down the field? Best over a career? Or in a few games? Depending on the assemblage of criteria, I'd like to add Rex Kern, and Art Schlicter (sp). Kern was more artful than most of above, driving the team, moxie. Schlicter was a good-to-great passer, but played DB in pros. Tom Matte was a good QB for the Buckeyes, but played RB in pros, until called upon in championship game to step up. Joe Germaine did it all under pressure as well. Had a cup of coffee in the pros. Heck, CJ has had, in his rookie season, the best career than the combination of all of the pro OSU QBs. This debate could take years.
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GeorgiaBuck2
Lets Go!
I gotta go with Troy. Dude was a legendary Michigan killer, and that 2006 game was one I'll always remember.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
As Cali said, we have to define greatest. Despite minimal sample size those games were huge (B1G, against a better than solid Wisconsin team, Bama, and Oregon for the NC) and it's hard not to go with Jones. If we'd beaten uga for the NC, I'd go with Stroud.
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I did not include anyone before Smith in the voting because Smith utterly dominated the voting in previous polls
As for defining “Greatest”
To me these off season discussions are the most fun when we let each person say what their own definition of greatest is. The more narrowly you define “greatest”, the shorter and less interesting is the conversation.
As for defining “Greatest”
To me these off season discussions are the most fun when we let each person say what their own definition of greatest is. The more narrowly you define “greatest”, the shorter and less interesting is the conversation.
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OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
Wins and Championships are a team statThe most important QB stat is Ws and Championships. It's between one of the three men that won the ultimate prize: Rex Kern, Craig Krenzel, or Cardell Jones.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Yes and football is a team sport. The objective of any football game is to win the game; not to come away with your QB having the best stats. The best QBs are the ones that play to win games and Championships as opposed to just padding their personal stats.
Rex Kern played in a different era and in addition he played for Woody Hayes who as everybody knows wasn't all that keen on passing the football. Funny Rex Kern quote:
"When I played, Ohio State didn't throw the ball that much but halfway through my junior year, with only maybe 12 or 13 games, I became the all-time leading total yards player in program history," Kern said. "We did different things at that time which enabled me to do that.
"I was fortunate enough to be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame and I sat next to Doug Flutie," Kern added. "I said, 'Hey Flutie, I was looking at your statistics and saw you threw for 10,000-some yards. The only time I saw that number was on my odometer on my car.'".....
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I voted for Troy.
Would have voted for Fields had he been fully unleashed by Day.
Strouds clearly the best passer, but the other two were/are warriors and leaders.
Would have voted for Fields had he been fully unleashed by Day.
Strouds clearly the best passer, but the other two were/are warriors and leaders.
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I would say that CJ was the best quarterback Ohio State ever had. Troy Smith also was really something. I also don't want to forget what Dwayne Haskins did to make Ohio State such a quarterback destination today.
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Captain Buckeye
Legend
The best thrower? Absolutely CJ Stroud.
The best quarterback? Troy Smith.
Troy was very accurate for his time, took appropriate risks downfield, made plays with his legs, and was such a damn cold blooded killer when it mattered.
The best quarterback? Troy Smith.
Troy was very accurate for his time, took appropriate risks downfield, made plays with his legs, and was such a damn cold blooded killer when it mattered.
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