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That's a simplistic example, but generally if the human polls agree, you're not going to pick up enough points from the computers to put you over. That's apparently a deliberate part of the new formula.

I think people were pissed about USC being #1 in 2003 but #3 in the BCS. I think it gives too much power to the human voters, who I don't think necessarily watch all the games or even know about enough specifics of the games to make an intelligent vote.

"Ohio State only beat Poop Univ. by 600 points? The spread was a thousand! Ohio State must suck!"

We're back to putting more importance to WHEN a team loses than to WHOM a team loses.
 
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At the risk of getting Nittany Kittens fans even more worked up into a lather, here's Massey's ratings for this week:

1 Penn St
2 Alabama
3 Florida St
4 Wisconsin
5 Virginia Tech
6 Miami FL
7 USC
8 Florida
9 Georgia
10 Texas
11 Tennessee
12 Georgia Tech
13 Minnesota
14 LSU
15 Colorado
16 UCLA
17 South Florida
18 Nebraska
19 Ohio St

The computers are going to LOVE an OSU win in Happy Valley. :wink:
 
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Anderson-Hester is now releasing rankings for the first time this year:

1 USC
2 Alabama
3 Florida State
4 Virginia Tech
5 Penn State
6 Wisconsin
7 Georgia
8 Texas
9 UCLA
10 Florida
11 Miami, Fla.
12 Georgia Tech
13 Nebraska
14 Tennessee
15 LSU
16 Minnesota
17 Notre Dame
18 Michigan State
19 California
20 Ohio State


Edit: When you throw out the high and the low scores among all of the computer polls that are currently out (as the BCS formula does), OSU's average rank is #20.
 
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The thing about these computer rankings is they are the result of Human input. OSU is where they are because of human opinion. Not computer analisys.

Huh? Unless the computers are being fed the human (poll) rankings, OSU is indeed where it is in the computer polls because of computer analysis. As far as I know, these computer rankings are derived solely by the game results loaded into them and the subsequent computer program that crunches those game results. You think the Massey computer program would have Penn State as its #1 if it knew where they were in the human rankings?
 
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Huh? Unless the computers are being fed the human (poll) rankings, OSU is indeed where it is in the computer polls because of computer analysis. As far as I know, these computer rankings are derived solely by the game results loaded into them and the subsequent computer program that crunches those game results. You think the Massey computer program would have Penn State as its #1 if it knew where they were in the human rankings?

Its a simple process of "Shit in, Shit out". You know that. If the numbers going in favor one dimension of the game more the the rest, say ofensive scoring, the computer polls will simply favor the teams that put up huge numbers against average opponents. Looking at the poll, the teams that are way up in the rankings are teams (with a few exceptions) that are putting up lots of points but winning by narrow margins. Like PSU escaping NW with win and USC needing two come backs to win from huge deficits.

While Ohio State, not hanging 40/week on anyone, has given up less yards in its last two games than most of the teams ahead of them gave up on Saturday.

The formulas are biased to favor the basketball on grass crap, and great defensive teams like OSU are pushed down the list.
 
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