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Watching Universe Could Hasten its Demise

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sandgk;1009797; said:
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The theory is controversial since no one yet knows whether people are needed to do the observing.
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... this is the reason why the theory is controversial? i was thinking the reasoning might be something a little more simple. like it being dumb for example.

Nonetheless, Highfield also reports that this isn?t the first time observations by astronomers might have ?damaged the heavens.? Five years ago astronomers measured the amount of light in the galaxy, which was then thought to account for ten percent of the mass and gravity of the universe. Recent recalculation of the light measurement now describes a universe that?s lost about one fifth of its overall mass since scientists first took a look.
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ah yes... because its FAR more likely that by us looking at the sky we inadvertantly changed the mass and gravity of the galaxy. its not possible in the least that A. our first measurement was wrong B. our second measurement was wrong C. both measurements are wrong or even D. something else caused a dramatic effect on the mass and gravity of the universe that is beyond our current knowledge/understanding.

why can't they just admit they don't have a clue?

this just in! ultrasounds greatly decrease a childs life span if you actually "look" at them! WERE KILLING OUR BABIES!!!!
 
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martinss01;1010940; said:
... this is the reason why the theory is controversial? i was thinking the reasoning might be something a little more simple. like it being dumb for example.
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Hey, Pal - This type of talk will lead us back to the dark ages.
The guy has a physics degree.
Now let's all mindlessly believe whatever he has to say.
 
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Zurp;1011000; said:
Hey, Pal - This type of talk will lead us back to the dark ages.
The guy has a physics degree.
Now let's all mindlessly believe whatever he has to say.
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I hope this doesn't send the thread into the political forum, but this hits on an interesting question I have been considering as of late. I am currently reading a very good book by Alister McGrath called Christianity's Dangerous Idea: The Protestant Revolution. One of his major theses is that the most radical idea of Protestant reformers was that scriptural interpretation should be democratized, that is to say, everyone should have the opportunity to interpret scripture, not just a few elite scholars within the church. This idea has lead to radical revolutions throughout western society, not just in religion, but in all areas of life.

As I am reading this book, I wonder if we are currently entering into a similar period of time in the secular world. Are we currently seeing the beginnings of a democratization of scientific interpretation? With the advent of the internet opening academic journal articles and popular science publications to a greater audience are we seeing a movement in which people will begin to interpret the findings of the scientific approach as they see fit rather than relying on a few elite scholars within the academe? An interesting parallel to consider, especially its possible ramifications.
 
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buckeyegrad;1011129; said:
With the advent of the internet opening academic journal articles and popular science publications to a greater audience are we seeing a movement in which people will begin to interpret the findings of the scientific approach as they see fit rather than relying on a few elite scholars within the academe? An interesting parallel to consider, especially its possible ramifications.
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The internet is for more than scientific publications, you know.

When I started working at my previous job, my boss at the time told me that I should speak up and ask why things are done the way they're done. He said that it would benefit me to learn how they're done, and it would benefit the company because a "newbie" would likely be looking at the process from a different perspective. And since he and the rest of the company had been doing that for so long, maybe they needed that new perspective. My point is that there's a possibility that you've got all these scientific minds huddled around a lunch-room table discussing their ideas, and eventually, they all look the same. They all mold into a similar perspective. With the internet making it much easier for me to learn about stuff like this, I might be able to say, "What about this?" 99% of the time (or more), my question would be the dumbest question these people have ever heard. But once in a while, a blind squirrel finds a nut.

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