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scarletandgrey said:
I might be a little too optimistic but I agree with the odds tOSU should be #2 and we do have a legitimate shot at winning it all this year. Hate to say it though I don't believe that USC is even going to go they will probably be upset by some off the wall team and that is what makes college fooball great.
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I agree. Alot of people are pointing to the Oregon game, some are pointing to the Arizona State game. I think they will lose on 11/19 to Fresno State. It sets up perfectly for an upset, it's a non conference game inbetween 2 big conference games. Fresno State is a very good team, and finished strong last year, winning I think 7 straight, including a bowl win. I really think the more games USC wins, the harder it will be to keep the streak going.
 
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I think Buckeye Bill pointed this out, but Vegas does follow the money. If the "experts" started the Bucks at 18-1, the betting basically steers the odds from there. So, either the popular feeling amoungst the betting nation is OSU will have a very strong year, or there's just a ton of gambling Buckeye fans out there.

Either way, it's all good.
 
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buckeyeboy said:
I am sick and tired of seeing USC at the top of the odds lists, rankings, etc. If that team played in a powerhouse conference, they would not have gone undefeated last year and would not have only lost one game the year before. ... Put USC in the Big Ten last season and they would have lost at least two games. The fact that writers are calling them a dynasty is a joke.
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I don't understand why you think USC would struggle in the Big-10, since the circumstantial evidence indicates that, at least lately, USC would be reasonably dominate. All USC has done is arguably played the best all-around football since about the midpoint of the 2002 season. In 2002 and 2003, USC laughed their way through two successive Big-10 champions (or co-champions) Iowa and Michigan. Hell, even a middling Arizona State team last year did something that OSU couldn't do: beat Northwestern, Iowa AND Purdue.

The reputation of the Pac-10 as a struggling conference might have been relevent in the mid/late-90s, when USC was down and Big-10 teams not named Northwestern won every Rose Bowl from 92 - 99. But that argument isn't valid anymore. From what I've seen in the recent BCS era, the Pac-10's best are as good or better than anyone else. First Oregon, and now USC, regardless of whether or not they have all the national championship trophies to prove it.

Once Washington and Arizona get turned around, which I think they will, the Pac-10 won't be so top-heavy, but to suggest the conference is a joke, and by extension so is USC, is absurd. USC deserves the #1 ranking they've earned and are entitled to keep it until someone beats them by more than a OT field goal. Southern Cal has lost 3 games in the last 3 years, by a FG, a FG, and a TD, all on the road.

Their dismantling of Oklahoma last year was the exclaimation point.
 
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FYI, here are the odds (as "___" to 1) to win the BCS at Intertops:

2.25 USC
11 Florida
11 Ohio State
11 Texas
13 LSU
13 Miami-Florida
13 Oklahoma
16 Florida State
16 Michigan
16 Tennessee
19 Iowa
21 Louisville
26 Georgia
29 Virginia Tech
34 Texas A&M
34 Virginia
41 Arizona State
41 Auburn
51 Kansas State
51 Purdue
51 Wisconsin
61 Minnesota
61 Oregon
61 Penn State
67 California
67 Georgia Tech
67 Nebraska
76 Alabama
76 Clemson
76 Colorado
76 Michigan State
76 Missouri
76 Notre Dame
76 Oklahoma State
76 Pittsburgh
76 Texas Tech
76 UCLA
81 Boston College
81 Fresno State
81 South Carolina
101 Arizona
101 Maryland
126 Utah
151 Boise State
751 Washington
1001 Illinois
 
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GoBucks89 said:
Don't you mean "Choke-lahoma"? We're looking at a two-year trend here. Not that I'm questioning USC's talent but they barely broke a sweat after the 1st quarter in the NC game.
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A cute play on words on Oklahoma's name doesn't negate the fact that the Sooners were a top-notch team with as much talent top to bottom as any team in the country, and they got totally destroyed by USC.
 
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Mark my words, USC will not win the NC this coming season. It simply will not happen. That doesn't mean they'll suck. It just means they won't win the NC this year. I know SC returns a great deal and all that. So did OSU in 1969 and 1970. So did OU last year. So did Miami in 02.

I think they're going to miss Norm Chow quite a bit, I think they'll drop a game they probably shouldn't, and I think that probability-wise the chance of a three-peat is so remote as to be absurd. Granted, the "probability" arguement is a poor basis for making a reasoned analysis of a football team, but this thread IS about betting - or odds. Betting (Odds) is based on such things as trends and probability. I'd say taking SC is a poor bet this year.

The best bet, actually, would probably be to put your money on teams who's preseason ranks lands them somewhere between 5 and 15. OU and USC last season was a bit of an anomoly.
 
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Auburn was in that same nieghborhood, and it cost them dearly. USC and Oklahoma started #1 & #2 and Auburn had to fight all the way through the rankings to get up to the top. That alone justifies doing away with all preseason polls, at least it does to me.
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Auburn was in that same nieghborhood, and it cost them dearly. USC and Oklahoma started #1 & #2 and Auburn had to fight all the way through the rankings to get up to the top. That alone justifies doing away with all preseason polls, at least it does to me.
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I already did my rant today on the polls. I was told that I'm preaching to the choir on this message board.
 
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BUCKS 1 said:
I like the sound of all this. USC vs OSU We owe them big time! Ginn vs. What's his name? George Bush or something? That's what it will be by the time we get there. Bush will be a has been!
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I think we can all agree (and probably Ekeen too, though I think he probably shy's away from the football part of this board) that Ted Ginn would abuse Dubya on the gridiron.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
I think they're going to miss Norm Chow quite a bit, I think they'll drop a game they probably shouldn't, and I think that probability-wise the chance of a three-peat is so remote as to be absurd.
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They're going to miss Ed Orgeron too.

However, we're missing Tucker and Snyder- both of our D-Coordinators. Are we supposed to drop a game that we shouldn't too? Though Chow & Orgeron were a couple of the best assistant coaches in the college game, I don't think that theory holds quite as much water.

IF USC drops a game that they shouldn't, it will be more because they were overconfident going into the game (talent, the streak, back-to-back NC's), and panicked because they were actually trailing in the ballgame. And in my opinion, that's a big IF too. USC, like Miami in 02 and Oklahoma in 03, deserves the #1 ranking until someone beats them. Everyone else right now is playing for #2 until USC loses.

The three-peat is about as rare a feat as there is in college football (minus winning 2 heismans!), but I think there is NO doubt in any sports writer's mind that USC can do it this year. Gotta love the Buck's odds on upsetting them in the championship game this year, though! Could be another storybook season, ala 02!
 
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