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USC Trojans (official thread)

All you have to do is listen to were all the media hype is going.
SI demanding that LSU play USC for the MNC. Odds are tough for that actually playing out.
What about a team like V-Tech pulling the upset of LSU and making a run?
West Virginia? Not enough defense.
Just as there is a media bies against us right now. There is a pro SEC media bias right now. And Les Miles knows this!
But, what happens if the SEC winner has a loss or even 2?
 
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Taosman;878004; said:
But, what happens if the SEC winner has a loss or even 2?

Then they won't make it to the national championship game. The SEC fans will whine about it. But they always will. It's actually quite funny listening to them whine. Sometimes, it's the only reason I turn on any of those national radio shows.
 
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Without doing a statistical analysis to confirm the following, I think it's pretty obvious that the NC game is typically participated by teams which are clearly superior teams playing in average or poor conferences.

Tennessee v. Flast. Tenny is one of the few exceptions to the rule, making the championship game out of a true "power" conference. Flast - especially in 98, was the only team worthy of respect out of the ACC

Va Tech v. Flast - Big Least v. ACC. Nuff said

Oklahoma v. Flast. Big XII, despite the hype is a grand total of 3 teams (at the time) OU, Texas and Nebraska (again, at the time). ACC still sucked ass if you exclude Flast.

Miami v. Nebby Here again, a superior team in a dreadful conference (Big Least) v. a Big XII "power" that has the luxury of beating up on the likes of Kansas, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M and so on. Teams with reps of being occasionally decent. In fact, this particular game exemplifies my point. Nebraska was exposed, if you'll recall.

Miami v. Ohio State - Big Least champion v. Ohio State. In 02, the Big Ten was in pretty good shape power-wise, but OSU did miss Iowa that year.

Oklahoma v. LSU - Big XII v. SEC. Hats off to LSU. Yet another Big XII team getting exposed.

Oklahoma v. USC - Pac 10 and Big XII... thrilling.

Texas v. USC - OU fell off the radar and Texas took the reigns. As we all remember this Texas team was actually very very good. Again, my point here is NOT to argue the participants in these games were somehow unworthy, just that they came from conferences which were weak. Pac 10 - like the old ACC is USC and everyone else.

Ohio State v. Florida - Last year, I think it's fair to say the Big 10 was truly the big 2 little 8 (9 as it is now) again. Florida did indeed have to run through a honestly tough SEC. True they had OOC creampuffs, but I don't think it's fair to expect any school to play a top 25 power week in and week out either.

So, by my "gut" reaction to these games, I see about 15 (give or take - I'm giving OSU 02 a "power conf." rating.. it occurred to me that the B10 went 6 - 0 in bowls or something like it) out of 18 title game participants got there coming from weak conferences. Again, I have not researched actual stats to back up my claims, and I leave room that the numbers might bear out a different truth. Still, it seems the BCS era has taught us that the formula to getting there is to field a nationally competitive team against a "down" conference/schedule.

This bodes well for OSU's schedule this year, although I must confess I don't expect OSU to go undefeated like I did last year. That said, I surely did not expect it in 02... though I did in 98...

It does NOT bode well for SC or LSU. I hesitate on SC, actually. I don't feel the PAc 10 is particularly strong, even now, but their OOC is legit.

As I would say even if this was mid-October... Nothing is close to settled.
 
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One way I like to judge a schedule is the toughness of the road games. LSU's road games are:

Miss State
Kentucky
Alabama
Ole Miss

I assume that any very good team should be favored in their home games. So this LSU schedule is not all that difficult.
 
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CleveBucks;878037; said:
One way I like to judge a schedule is the toughness of the road games. LSU's road games are:

Miss State
Kentucky
Alabama
Ole Miss

I assume that any very good team should be favored in their home games. So this LSU schedule is not all that difficult.

A good point. Certainly in a game like football, and especially college football, where performance is based in no small part on emotion and the raise in emotion derivative of the energy provided by your crowd, where you play the tough ones is important.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;878029; said:
So, by my "gut" reaction to these games, I see about 15 (give or take - I'm giving OSU 02 a "power conf." rating.. it occurred to me that the B10 went 6 - 0 in bowls or something like it) out of 18 title game participants got there coming from weak conferences.

FYI - Didn't USC beat Iowa in the Orange Bowl that year? I can't remember any of the other games that year. Maybe that was the Big Ten's only loss. If so, I would consider you to be correct that the Big Ten went something "like" 6-0 in bowl games.
 
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Zurp;878335; said:
FYI - Didn't USC beat Iowa in the Orange Bowl that year? I can't remember any of the other games that year. Maybe that was the Big Ten's only loss. If so, I would consider you to be correct that the Big Ten went something "like" 6-0 in bowl games.

USC 38, Iowa 17 in the Orange Bowl after the 2002 season. Auburn also beat Penn St. 13-9 in the Capital One Citrus, so the Big Ten was 5-2.
 
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Zurp, BB73.... thanks. 5 - 2 is close enough to "like" 6-0 for me. :wink2:

Speaking of time-outs.... does anyone remember who it was last year who called 2 TOs in one possession, only to resolve to punt? It may have been in a bowl game, and for some reason Missouri comes to mind.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;878355; said:
Zurp, BB73.... thanks. 5 - 2 is close enough to "like" 6-0 for me. :wink2:

Speaking of time-outs.... does anyone remember who it was last year who called 2 TOs in one possession, only to resolve to punt? It may have been in a bowl game, and for some reason Missouri comes to mind.


Wasn't it Urban Meyer in the SEC championship game???
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;878355; said:
Speaking of time-outs.... does anyone remember who it was last year who called 2 TOs in one possession, only to resolve to punt? It may have been in a bowl game, and for some reason Missouri comes to mind.

Wingate1217;878546; said:
Wasn't it Urban Meyer in the SEC championship game???

Buckeyeskickbuttocks;878549; said:
That may in fact be it. Not sure, but that rings a bell.

I remember in 2005 when Ohio State was running out of time at the end of the half, and they had a third down, ran up to the ball and spiked it somewhere around midfield. Then, as it was fourth down, they punted it. Can't remember the opponent.
 
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Didn't want to clog up California Pete's thread with this.

If Carroll is indeed gone, who are the candidates?

Does Sarkisian come back? Norm Chow was never head coach material, personality-wise. Lane Kiffin has been a circus at Tennessee.

Could they get Jim Harbaugh to cross enemy lines?

Do they go the ex-NFL route again? Jon Gruden doesn't seem like he wants to leave the broadcast booth. How about someone like Mike Nolan or Jim Zorn?

Don't see any candidates out there that will definitely be on the short list.
 
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