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DaytonBuck
I've always liked them
We're getting control of this rig and taking it back to Jamica
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OHSportsFan
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Another ESPN Classic game, 7pm EST.
Standings
1. Honduras 13 pts... (@MEX, vs USA, @El SAL)
2. U.S.A. 13 pts....... (@T&T, @HOND, vs CR)
3. Mexico 12 pts....... (vs HOND, vs EL SAL, @T&T)
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4. Costa Rica 12 pts... (@EL SAL, vs T&T, @USA)
5. El Salvador 5 pts.... (vs CR, @MEX, vs HOND)
6. T&T 5 pts.............. (vs USA, @CR, vs MEX)
T&T are last in the Hex, and lost to the US 3-0 in the States, but they will battle like crazy at home. They have some talent and any CONCACAF road game is tough, especially against opponents with their backs against the wall. Never really know what to expect and the US has looked pretty shaky overall this summer (save for Egypt, Spain, and 1st Brazil). They've given up early goals in a lot of the Qualies.
Surprisingly, Mexico now looks to end up at the top of the group. They should handle Honduras and El Salvador at home (as they do most teams). For the US, it's looking more and more likely that Qualifying will come down to the home match against Costa Rica. U.S. will be in if they get 18 points (tie @T&T, tie @El Sal, win C.R.).
Not a must win per se, but they should win this game. A loss would be bad.
3-1 EEUU.
Standings
1. Honduras 13 pts... (@MEX, vs USA, @El SAL)
2. U.S.A. 13 pts....... (@T&T, @HOND, vs CR)
3. Mexico 12 pts....... (vs HOND, vs EL SAL, @T&T)
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4. Costa Rica 12 pts... (@EL SAL, vs T&T, @USA)
5. El Salvador 5 pts.... (vs CR, @MEX, vs HOND)
6. T&T 5 pts.............. (vs USA, @CR, vs MEX)
T&T are last in the Hex, and lost to the US 3-0 in the States, but they will battle like crazy at home. They have some talent and any CONCACAF road game is tough, especially against opponents with their backs against the wall. Never really know what to expect and the US has looked pretty shaky overall this summer (save for Egypt, Spain, and 1st Brazil). They've given up early goals in a lot of the Qualies.
Surprisingly, Mexico now looks to end up at the top of the group. They should handle Honduras and El Salvador at home (as they do most teams). For the US, it's looking more and more likely that Qualifying will come down to the home match against Costa Rica. U.S. will be in if they get 18 points (tie @T&T, tie @El Sal, win C.R.).
Not a must win per se, but they should win this game. A loss would be bad.
3-1 EEUU.
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Bernini
I don't want to play fair I'm a thugs-are-us coach
HUGE game for the Nats tonight. If they lose they're in a precarious position to even gain an automatic qualifying spot, which would be embarrassing result considering the weakness of CONCACAF. The U.S. could be tied for 3rd w/ Honduras if they lose, behind in goal differential, and w/ an upcoming game at their place. So we at least better come away with a point, although anything less than a win would still be disappointing and put us up against it.
Not good that DeMerit is injured and we might have the tentative challenges, clearances, passing, and one touches of Jon Bornstein to look forward to tonight. I watched a Chivas USA/LA Galaxy game a couple weeks ago, and he wasn't even one of the better players on the field on a night where most everybody played below average for themselves. Yet he still got called up by Bob Bradley who was in the crowd (must be lazy scouting on his part) and proceeded to stink up the place against El Salvador, which included a relinquishing of the only goal for the opponent from a clearance by Bornstein that inexplicably went toward the top of the box. And he was wiffing on balls, kicking them directly out of bounds, slowing down the counter attack, etc. It was bad.
Considering team USA has only 3 reliable defenders at this point (Onyewu, Boca, Spector), I'd go to a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. 4-4-2 w/ a diamond midfield would be my ideal formation also, but you have to adapt to your personnel. Right now we don't have the troops to pull it off. I think about 8-9 of our 15 or so best players right now might be midfielders. And we have 3 or 4 legit forwards when we're healthy. Quite a contrast to our makeup earlier this decade when we had McBride and nothing else to the point where we were forced to employ Donovan up front.
When healthy the ideal lineup for me would be:
Forwards: Davies, Altidore, Dempsey
Midfield: Torres, J. Jones, Donovan, Holden
Defense: Boca, Onyewu, Spector
K: Howard
bench: Bradley, Edu, Zizzo, Cherundolo, DeMerit, Guzan, Feilhaber
Tonight I badly want to see Holden (Harkes said it best when he said he likes everything about Holden, major catalyst), Torres, and/or Feilhaber over the likes of Bornstein and Bradley; but I doubt Bob can be unbiased toward his son and has the guts to change to a more aggressive formation.
Not good that DeMerit is injured and we might have the tentative challenges, clearances, passing, and one touches of Jon Bornstein to look forward to tonight. I watched a Chivas USA/LA Galaxy game a couple weeks ago, and he wasn't even one of the better players on the field on a night where most everybody played below average for themselves. Yet he still got called up by Bob Bradley who was in the crowd (must be lazy scouting on his part) and proceeded to stink up the place against El Salvador, which included a relinquishing of the only goal for the opponent from a clearance by Bornstein that inexplicably went toward the top of the box. And he was wiffing on balls, kicking them directly out of bounds, slowing down the counter attack, etc. It was bad.
Considering team USA has only 3 reliable defenders at this point (Onyewu, Boca, Spector), I'd go to a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. 4-4-2 w/ a diamond midfield would be my ideal formation also, but you have to adapt to your personnel. Right now we don't have the troops to pull it off. I think about 8-9 of our 15 or so best players right now might be midfielders. And we have 3 or 4 legit forwards when we're healthy. Quite a contrast to our makeup earlier this decade when we had McBride and nothing else to the point where we were forced to employ Donovan up front.
When healthy the ideal lineup for me would be:
Forwards: Davies, Altidore, Dempsey
Midfield: Torres, J. Jones, Donovan, Holden
Defense: Boca, Onyewu, Spector
K: Howard
bench: Bradley, Edu, Zizzo, Cherundolo, DeMerit, Guzan, Feilhaber
Tonight I badly want to see Holden (Harkes said it best when he said he likes everything about Holden, major catalyst), Torres, and/or Feilhaber over the likes of Bornstein and Bradley; but I doubt Bob can be unbiased toward his son and has the guts to change to a more aggressive formation.
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OHSportsFan
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--------Altidore----Davies-------------
Demps----Clark---Bradley-----Donovan
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Bornstein---Boca---Onyewu---Spector
------------Howard----------------
Meh. About expected for Coach Bradley (defensive on the road- Rico Clark...no Feilhaber :(). Stinks DeMerit is out.
Good enough to win @ T&T.
No early goals allowed!
GO USA!
Demps----Clark---Bradley-----Donovan
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Bornstein---Boca---Onyewu---Spector
------------Howard----------------
Meh. About expected for Coach Bradley (defensive on the road- Rico Clark...no Feilhaber :(). Stinks DeMerit is out.
Good enough to win @ T&T.
No early goals allowed!
GO USA!
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OHSportsFan
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Beautiful tropical rendition of the U.S. National Anthem. :)
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Bernini
I don't want to play fair I'm a thugs-are-us coach
OHSportsFan9;1534658; said:
Clark and Bornstein
I'm also sure, especially with that lineup, that he'll pack it in and play dump and chase with about 9 guys back, many of whom don't have ball skills, and then only 2 up front to serve the ball to.I really hope it is not going to take missing out on the World Cup to give Bradley the heave ho, because he's dragging down the potential of USA soccer regardless. Sampson II
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OHSportsFan
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Agreed. I'm not a fan of either. At all.Clark and Bornstein
Can't wait for J. Jones in the central midfield.
US desperately needs a Left Back. Spector might be able to slide over and have 'Dolo play the right, I don't know.
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OHSportsFan
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T&T does not seem very intimidating.
Too bad Bob always goes conservative on the road.
Gonna need some magic from Davies and Donovan on the counter.
Too bad Bob always goes conservative on the road.
Gonna need some magic from Davies and Donovan on the counter.
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OHSportsFan
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This field is shit.
Are they playing on a parking lot?
Ball is very lively to say the least. Or the US just has terrible first touches.
Are they playing on a parking lot?
Ball is very lively to say the least. Or the US just has terrible first touches.
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Bernini
I don't want to play fair I'm a thugs-are-us coach
OHSportsFan9;1534662; said:
That's how I'd play it for now.
U.S. has been very passive at the back so far....backing off dribblers and allowing them free crosses and shots on goal. So we're pretty much at the mercy of their ball skills, or thankfully lack thereof so far. But I think we're good enough to try and control our own destiny.
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OHSportsFan
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That should be a handball.
T&T player slid to the ground and stopped a cross (although, not too threatening) with his arm.
T&T player slid to the ground and stopped a cross (although, not too threatening) with his arm.
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OHSportsFan
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Bocanegra looks like shit. So many fucking wasted long-balls.
Donovan looks like shit. 5 corners and not 1 shot on goal off of them. Terrible crosses.
And Dempsey looks like complete shit. Damn him for always just scoring late clutch goals...
Yet overall, the US has outplayed them.
Bornstein our best player so far?!
. Okay, it's probably been Spector or Davies.
Donovan looks like shit. 5 corners and not 1 shot on goal off of them. Terrible crosses.
And Dempsey looks like complete shit. Damn him for always just scoring late clutch goals...
Yet overall, the US has outplayed them.
Bornstein our best player so far?!
. Okay, it's probably been Spector or Davies.
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