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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
Okay, but what about Jim Tressel?
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Just a little reminder of what UFM did to the B1G. Below is a graphic that was on a Colin Cowherd show in which he addressed how dominant Ohio State has been over the last decade (don't ask me why I was watching it), which shows Ohio State's regular season B1G record since 2009:
Note that Meyer's record in regular-season play is a mind-boggling 55-4 (including a 30-game win streak). Toss in his 3-1 record in the B1G CCG and he went 58-5 against B1G opponents. Ryan Day has some clownshoe-sized footwear to fill...
Note that Meyer's record in regular-season play is a mind-boggling 55-4 (including a 30-game win streak). Toss in his 3-1 record in the B1G CCG and he went 58-5 against B1G opponents. Ryan Day has some clownshoe-sized footwear to fill...
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
72-11 (from graphic) + 29-3 (from @Dryden ) and you get a nice little 101-14 record against the B1G.
Takeaway the 3-5 transition year and it is 98-9.
I think these numbers look favorable, no?
Takeaway the 3-5 transition year and it is 98-9.
I think these numbers look favorable, no?
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The thing we should all keep repeating to be fair to Day is that he doesn't have to be better than Urban Meyer. He just has to be better than his peers.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
It's not the 8s, it's the 1s that are the issue. He was the right guy at the right time, but I think that time has passed. The game is different and while he talked about changing, it never really happened. It could well be, though, that one of the greatest things he did while corch was bring in and keep Day. He left an incredible foundation and culture from which to build. If we waste that opportunity, shame on us.
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As much as I love Tressel--there's no bigger Tressel fan on this site than me--Tressel lost four conference games in 2004...Meyer lost four conference games (not counting the CCGs) in his career.
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pianobuck46
pianobuck46
Hey, I'm a huge JT fan myself, but you're dead on. I guess that someone should tell Day, "Dude, don't be too good."
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URBAN MEYER'S FINAL GOLD PANTS SPEECH TO THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...a-rivalry-urban-meyer-final-gold-pants-speech
"Humbled to be in front of you again. I’ve been part of this rivalry since I was this big [holds hand up to waist]. So I get really upset when I see people come into the program and they don’t appreciate it, they don’t respect it, and, uh, that bothers me.
And I can speak on behalf of you guys who have been here. I cannot speak on behalf of you guys in the back because you don’t yet. Some of you know a little bit about it. But this is a rivalry that in the 10-Year War, there was guy named Bo Schembechler who was the coach at the Team Up North, he’s actually from Ohio. And then a guy named Woody Hayes, and he was the coach here.
And I lived that rivalry in 1986-87 when I was a coach here and I lived this rivalry away coaching in other places. Came back here and, and I’ve been at USC vs. Notre Dame, Florida vs. Georgia, Florida vs. Florida State, and all due respect to all of them out there - that ain’t anything like this.
So it really bothered me when I heard a player for the other team come out and guarantee wins, and Revenge Tours, and shit like that, and I remember those days and my head almost popped off my shoulders. That’s disrespecting the rivalry. And I think - everyone listen real close, this is in our DNA, this will never change: How do you really show respect for a rivalry?
Think about it. Very simple question, complicated answer. How do you show respect for a rivalry?
Is it a tee shirt, is it uh - some guy, that Kamara (Ed. Meyer likely meant Michigan running back Karan Higdon, not Saints running back Alvin Kamara) that asshole that said they were going to win the game and said “I guarantee it” or that defensive end, really good player, Revenge Tour Almost Done so he’s going to group us with Wisconsin or Penn State or something like that?
How do you really show respect for a rivalry? And all due respect, maybe some up there don’t understand that. You work that [expletive] every day. Every day. You walk in that staff room - this is for the new coaches, you know who they recruit. You know what they’re doing every day. What I ask Mark Pantoni - who are they recruiting? Who are they going after? What is their practice schedule? What are they doing? Are we outworking them?
So I’ll say this again. How do you respect a rivalry? You work it every day. You don’t shoot your mouth off. If I ever hear, whatever’s going on, I hear a player take a shot verbally at them - that’s a problem. How do you show respect for a rivalry? You work it every [expletive] day. Not by tee shirts. Not by bullshit.
When I see people giggle about how we don’t wear blue in here - I don’t laugh about that. We don’t have blue pens in here. That’s not funny. This is Nike vs. Adidas, this is Coke vs. Pepsi, this is Ohio State vs the Team Up North. This is our livelihood.
So if you're new to the program - welcome to the program. Understand where you’re at. This is not a game. This is not silly. This is a way of life. There’s a bunch of former players in the back [of the room] that lived it. As you move up, you live it. This is who you are.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. And you work it every day. And I don’t give a shit if you’re from California or Texas or whatever, as soon as you say you’re a Buckeye this is part of your life for the rest of your life - and you don’t lose to those pricks. You beat them every day. Every day.
This will always be a player’s program. What you guys did in that game, to put a beating on that team like they’ve never had a beating before in the history of that program - very good program, by the way - you notice how we talk about them, right? Is that a good program up there? Great program. Good players up there? Great players. Great coaches? Great coaches.
That’s the way you respect a rivalry. Then you outwork them and then you kick that ass like it’s never been kicked before. And that’s what you did."
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...a-rivalry-urban-meyer-final-gold-pants-speech
"Humbled to be in front of you again. I’ve been part of this rivalry since I was this big [holds hand up to waist]. So I get really upset when I see people come into the program and they don’t appreciate it, they don’t respect it, and, uh, that bothers me.
And I can speak on behalf of you guys who have been here. I cannot speak on behalf of you guys in the back because you don’t yet. Some of you know a little bit about it. But this is a rivalry that in the 10-Year War, there was guy named Bo Schembechler who was the coach at the Team Up North, he’s actually from Ohio. And then a guy named Woody Hayes, and he was the coach here.
And I lived that rivalry in 1986-87 when I was a coach here and I lived this rivalry away coaching in other places. Came back here and, and I’ve been at USC vs. Notre Dame, Florida vs. Georgia, Florida vs. Florida State, and all due respect to all of them out there - that ain’t anything like this.
So it really bothered me when I heard a player for the other team come out and guarantee wins, and Revenge Tours, and shit like that, and I remember those days and my head almost popped off my shoulders. That’s disrespecting the rivalry. And I think - everyone listen real close, this is in our DNA, this will never change: How do you really show respect for a rivalry?
Think about it. Very simple question, complicated answer. How do you show respect for a rivalry?
Is it a tee shirt, is it uh - some guy, that Kamara (Ed. Meyer likely meant Michigan running back Karan Higdon, not Saints running back Alvin Kamara) that asshole that said they were going to win the game and said “I guarantee it” or that defensive end, really good player, Revenge Tour Almost Done so he’s going to group us with Wisconsin or Penn State or something like that?
How do you really show respect for a rivalry? And all due respect, maybe some up there don’t understand that. You work that [expletive] every day. Every day. You walk in that staff room - this is for the new coaches, you know who they recruit. You know what they’re doing every day. What I ask Mark Pantoni - who are they recruiting? Who are they going after? What is their practice schedule? What are they doing? Are we outworking them?
So I’ll say this again. How do you respect a rivalry? You work it every day. You don’t shoot your mouth off. If I ever hear, whatever’s going on, I hear a player take a shot verbally at them - that’s a problem. How do you show respect for a rivalry? You work it every [expletive] day. Not by tee shirts. Not by bullshit.
When I see people giggle about how we don’t wear blue in here - I don’t laugh about that. We don’t have blue pens in here. That’s not funny. This is Nike vs. Adidas, this is Coke vs. Pepsi, this is Ohio State vs the Team Up North. This is our livelihood.
So if you're new to the program - welcome to the program. Understand where you’re at. This is not a game. This is not silly. This is a way of life. There’s a bunch of former players in the back [of the room] that lived it. As you move up, you live it. This is who you are.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. And you work it every day. And I don’t give a shit if you’re from California or Texas or whatever, as soon as you say you’re a Buckeye this is part of your life for the rest of your life - and you don’t lose to those pricks. You beat them every day. Every day.
This will always be a player’s program. What you guys did in that game, to put a beating on that team like they’ve never had a beating before in the history of that program - very good program, by the way - you notice how we talk about them, right? Is that a good program up there? Great program. Good players up there? Great players. Great coaches? Great coaches.
That’s the way you respect a rivalry. Then you outwork them and then you kick that ass like it’s never been kicked before. And that’s what you did."
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This is a must read:
"HOW DO YOU RESPECT A RIVALRY?": URBAN MEYER'S FINAL GOLD PANTS SPEECH TO THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
Edit: Dryden beat me to it.
"HOW DO YOU RESPECT A RIVALRY?": URBAN MEYER'S FINAL GOLD PANTS SPEECH TO THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
Edit: Dryden beat me to it.
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This guy gets it.