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Unfair Fantasy Football Trades...

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by OilerBuck, Sep 27, 2004.

  1. OilerBuck

    OilerBuck Sweet Crude

    I am currently in first place in my league. After tonight I will be 3-0 and in a 10 team league, I clearly have the best "starting" talent. I am, however worried about my depth and posted a message offering Steve McNair for a quality 2nd or 3rd Wide Receiver. I got a response from a guy willing to trade 4 of his starters (Manning, D. Davis, T. Barber and J. Walker) for 3 of my backups (Lee Suggs, W. McGahee and D. Clark). This guy has no reason to be giving up, he is 4th place in the league at 1-1 (soon to b 2-1). He scored the most points in the league this week, and so I accepted the trade. NOW I am getting blasted by the rest of the league in the form of messages on the site...They can vote it down, so am I at fault here? I didn't ask this guy to trade, nor do I know who he is. The league isn't for money. I guess I just want to know if anyone here would have rejected this trade because it was unfair, or are the people on my league just being hypocritical by bashing a decision they would have made the same way.
  2. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    If they can vote it down, then tell them to vote it down... if they were offered something they really liked they would take it too...

    It is way too early in the season, for anybody to give up... players WILL get hurt, that is part of the game... sometimes the best teams gets crushed by injuries throughout the season... that is why quality depth is so important...

    again, tell them to deny the trade if they are that unhappy about it...
  3. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    We had a similar trade proposal in one league I am in...everyone just quickly voted it down, which is the purpose of the feature. If people don't vote against it, they have no right to complain. Does seem a bit of a fishy trade offer though.
  4. buckeyegrad

    buckeyegrad Don't Immanentize the Eschaton Staff Member

    My league also has the vote down option if we think two owners are purposefully engaging in an unfair trade. While I would never have personally accussed you of anything, I would have challenged it and brought the issue to a vote.
  5. OilerBuck

    OilerBuck Sweet Crude

    I won't deny that it's fishy...I can't think of a single reason for the guy to offer the trade. He has made a lot of moves on the year and like I said, is in good shape for the league title. Kind of odd to say the least. I just have a feeling that I'm gonna get hammered all year for this and everyone is going to refuse to trade with me. It's funny because I even posted that the trade seemed unfair to me but that I wouldn't turn it down. I guess I would be ticked off too...
  6. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ


    Yeah, it's not an easy situation to be in. Unfortunately, after the game he just had, any trade involving Peyton Manning especially will be looked at unfavorably, and Walker just scored like 3 TDs. I dunno.
  7. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    He offered you the trade and people are on you for accepting it? Screw em. If there is one thing I've learned in Fantasy Sports it's this - short of actual collusion, no trade should be vetoed.

    1. Owners have a right to be boneheads, and there is no shame in taking advantage of them (You think Steinbrenner (Sorry Sears) worries about making any owner look bad or keeping everything competitive when he outdeals another GM? Ummmm...No.)

    2. The rest of the owners in the league tend to evaluate players under their own team's needs - that is, they have NO IDEA why owner A may be doing what looks like a stupid, stupid trade.. clearly the dude you're dealing with feels it will help him (Whether the rest of the world agrees is inconsequential. Don't fool yourself, he's not trying to help you). So be it..

    You know, in real sports stupid trades are made all the time.. Baseball again, you don't think Babe Ruth for concert tickets and a waffle iron (Sorry Sears) was a bad deal? Football isn't immune either...

    Different people evaluate different players in different ways. if the rest of the league doesn't like it, it's because they didn't get the offer, not becasue they think you did something wrong.. no matter what they say to you. Tell em to take it up with the bonehead who made the offer, not you.
  8. BuckeyeSoldier

    BuckeyeSoldier 2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion

    I'm gonna have to disagree here, my guess is the guy is 12 and thinks he is gonna lose so he is fucking over everyone else that he can. the guy is a dipshit.

    but back to the original question, it really depends on this. Do you want to have competition for the rest of the year or just a cakewalk? lol I wouldnt worry myself over the other players feelings, just whether or not you wanted the game to a challenge.
  9. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Well, if Soldier is correct and the guy is dumping players, I'll just say that player dumping happens in real sports as well.

    If this was a money league, I'm pretty sure the guy wouldn't have done that. Money keeps people honest.
  10. OilerBuck

    OilerBuck Sweet Crude

    Well, the trade was exepectedly vetoed. I then proposed McNair, McGahee and Dallas Clark for Manning and Walker...they are still vetoing. This sucks, I need a reciever.
  11. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Get Roy Wiliams if you can.
  12. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    Receivers are hard to come by. I tried to snag Stokley, but no dice, he was taken..... I hate the stupid scoring system yahoo uses, I can't figure it out..
  13. OilerBuck

    OilerBuck Sweet Crude

    In a 10 team league, it's been especially hard. Roy Williams was drafted. Stokley was picked up last week. I managed to grab Peerless Price off waivers. Hopefully that will help. I just need consistency amd depth at WR and my team will be nearly unbeatable.
  14. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    I really don't like the 3 or 4 WR setup of the league, w/ only 1 designated RB. In my money league-in which I am the commish and drew up the rules, we have 2 RBs, 2WRs, and a pick em'-QB,WR,or RB. If anyone else from the league is reading this thread, make an offer for some of my RB depth for a decent WR.
  15. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Me, buckeyegrad, & buckeyefool are in a 10 team "Keeper" League through CBS Sportsline. It's the way to go. We start:

    1 QB
    2 RB
    3 WR
    1 TE
    1 Defense
    1 Kicker

    I got lucky and was able to draft Roy Williams with the 9th pick in the first round after drafting Julius Jones 3rd in the first round. I got a 3rd round pick ( In which I drafted Michael Jenkins) for trading Michael Vick to another member of our league. I also got his 2nd round pick for next year as well.

    What's been killing me though is that I haven't started Roy Williams b/c I have Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, and Joe Horn.

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