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U.S. Men's National Soccer (Official Thread)

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Bucklion said:
For all the talk about turning over the team and moving to the future, Beasley took the deciding penalty...
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I'll usually side with JK when it comes to lineups and building for the future. I feel the frustration when our CBs suck and give up terrible angles and easy goals (like today....wtf?)....but I know you have to let the young kids play for them to get better, so I'll usually be OK with it. What I don't understand is keeping Yedlin on the bench EVER, not starting Dempsey unless you are officially saying you don't give a shit about this game, and playing Beasley. If you want him to play, start him and sub him out. You're exactly right.....building for the future and then putting Beasley in there in ET, those are differing ideologies.

And by the way....every PK taken was lame. The ones that scored were lucky that the keeper guessed the wrong way. If I were a keeper against Dempsey right now, I wouldn't move at all knowing he's going to try and lob it right down the middle.

Lazy all around outside of that sweet goal.
 
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bigdog3300 said:
I read somewhere that 2018 World Cup qualifying starts later this year....is it something where we would expect to be qualified for the next Cup by next year sometime?
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We have 2 group stages to go through...the first has 4 teams and the last is the "hexagonal". However, there is a round for lesser teams before we start the first one, so yeah, I don't know all the dates, but there is a ways to go yet before we get there.
 
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bigdog3300 said:
I read somewhere that 2018 World Cup qualifying starts later this year....is it something where we would expect to be qualified for the next Cup by next year sometime?
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They drew into the easiest group, being placed with Trinidad & Tobago, the worst of the second-tier teams. It should be a breeze in theory. However, in the previous cycle they sleepwalked their way into making the group stage too interesting.

As we've seen in this Gold Cup, the US's outlook is directly tied to the quality of the squad that is selected. If Klinsmann decides to be experimental, keeps selecting chump-ass players, or keeps selecting squads that dictate that he play the best players out-of-position we're gonna keep seeing these kinds of performances.

Personally, I'm not going to get worked up over a third place game. I didn't bother to watch. It shouldn't even exist. It was pointless, and the team selection and effort probably reflected that.
 
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Thanks guys.....I'm not a super fan but watching the US defense the last few games has been atrocious. John Brooks...I don't know how he sees the field. Beasley still seems like he can give you way more, was this a matter of Klins going with the younger guy and trying to develop them for now, and is there any younger hopes defensively that may develop?
 
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bigdog3300 said:
Thanks guys.....I'm not a super fan but watching the US defense the last few games has been atrocious. John Brooks...I don't know how he sees the field. Beasley still seems like he can give you way more, was this a matter of Klins going with the younger guy and trying to develop them for now, and is there any younger hopes defensively that may develop?
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It's tough to tell what Klinsmann is thinking, because he says one thing and does another. He'll say winning the Gold Cup is of utmost performance, then he selects an experimental squad. He'll leave out some older, somewhat capable players in the name of evaluating others, but then he'll continue to give appearances to Wondolowski, Dempsey, Beckerman and Evans.

Dempsey at least provides something useful right now - though it seems doubtful that he'll be anything more than a bench guy by the time the next WC comes around. The other guys offered nothing useful in this tournament and will offer nothing useful going forward.
 
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Please tell me there are a couple more DM hiding somewhere like Gooch. They sure as hell haven't found any Forwards to replace Donovan or improve on what Donovan was. All of these freaking kids playing soccer across the country and we cant field a team with the heart to lay waste to teams like Cuba and Panama?
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Please tell me there are a couple more DM hiding somewhere like Gooch. They sure as hell haven't found any Forwards to replace Donovan or improve on what Donovan was. All of these freaking kids playing soccer across the country and we cant field a team with the heart to lay waste to teams like Cuba and Panama?
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The first part of this confuses me... Gooch wasn't a DM, he was a CB. At both positions though, there are a lot of promising players in the youth teams and MLS. One can only hope that those guys will become part of the mix, rather than always seeing out-of-form veterans and experimental dual nationals getting preference.

The second part, pertaining to forwards... The US needs to do better than replacing Donovan. It needs to produce an actual striker. Players like Dempsey and Donovan have done well when called upon, but it's not the role either one was best suited to. Everybody has had high hopes for Altidore to become that guy, but he has disappointed at nearly every step along the way.
 
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jlb1705 said:
The first part of this confuses me... Gooch wasn't a DM, he was a CB. At both positions though, there are a lot of promising players in the youth teams and MLS. One can only hope that those guys will become part of the mix, rather than always seeing out-of-form veterans and experimental dual nationals getting preference.

The second part, pertaining to forwards... The US needs to do better than replacing Donovan. It needs to produce an actual striker. Players like Dempsey and Donovan have done well when called upon, but it's not the role either one was best suited to. Everybody has had high hopes for Altidore to become that guy, but he has disappointed at nearly every step along the way.
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Sorry was thinking hockey and defensiveman with the DM.
 
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