ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2018 thread)

[NFBuck]

Wash, rinse, repeat; another offseason, another round of unfounded scUM hype:

Michigan (2017 record: 8–5)
The Wolverines were responsible for the lone blemish on the Big Ten’s bowl season résumé, a 26–19 Outback Bowl loss to South Carolina in which they blew a 16-point lead in the third quarter. Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh had come under fire for his subpar record against top-notch Big Ten East competition before that loss, and the chorus of critics charging that he’s overrated will pounce if he doesn’t deliver in a big way next season. He should be able to, given the number of quality players returning to Ann Arbor from a young team that predictably took its lumps in one of the Power 5’s most challenging divisions.


Most of the key contributors from a defense that ranked sixth in the country in yards allowed per play will be back, including linemen Chase Winovich and Rashan Gary and linebackers Devin Bush and Khaleke Hudson. The Wolverines’ offensive outlook will brighten if transfer quarterback Shea Patterson, who threw for 2,259 yards and 17 touchdowns against nine interceptions over seven games at Ole Miss last season, is granted immediate eligibility. They also have two other young options in Brandon Peters and Dylan McCaffrey, though Peters didn’t make a strong case for the starting job with his 20-of-44, two-interception performance against the Gamecocks.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/01/18/florida-state-oregon-michigan-state-rankings-playoff

Because, you know...Harbrau.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Wash, rinse, repeat; another offseason, another round of unfounded scUM hype:

He should be able to, given the number of quality players returning to Ann Arbor from a young team that predictably took its lumps in one of the Power 5’s most challenging divisions.

In 2017, Harbrau had one of the youngest teams in CFB and went 8-5.

Logic says that with an extra year of seasoning their record should dramatically improve, right?

Well, let's not forget that in 2016 Harbrau had the most veteran team in CFB and went 10-3.

So, looks like Michigan should go 9-4 next season. Right at their historical mean for the 21st century.

 

[Jaxbuck]

In 2017, Harbrau had one of the youngest teams in CFB and went 8-5.

Logic says that with an extra year of seasoning their record should dramatically improve, right?

Well, let's not forget that in 2016 Harbrau had the most veteran team in CFB and went 10-3.

So, looks like Michigan should go 9-4 next season. Right at their historical mean for the 21st century.

He took back the Little Brown Jug though

 

[Jagdaddy]

Wash, rinse, repeat; another offseason, another round of unfounded scUM hype:



https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/01/18/florida-state-oregon-michigan-state-rankings-playoff

Because, you know...Harbrau.

" He should be able to, given the number of quality players returning to Ann Arbor from a young team that predictably took its lumps in one of the Power 5’s most challenging divisions."

It was predictable for just about everyone here on BP (or anyone else who pays attention to college football and has a brain) but somehow the major media savants couldn't figure it out. SI had them ranked 13th in the 2017 preseason poll, with the only caveat about what could go wrong being related to their tough schedule rather than youth.

 

[AJHawkfan]

http://thewolverinelounge.com/2018/01/jim-harbaugh-different-michigan/

Jim Harbaugh: “I’m a different person coming into this season”

• 
• byBrandon Justice
• January 18, 2018

Isaiah Hole/247Sports

Jim Harbaugh has been under national scrutiny following Michigan’s average 8-5 season that ended with a 16-point blown lead in the Outback Bowl against South Carolina.

During an in-home visit with Mission Viejo (Calif.) 4-star OT Jarrett Patterson, Harbaugh told Patterson something we haven’t heard out of him before.

“Coach Harbaugh talked about how he realized that he needed to fix some things (after the season),” Patterson said in an interview with TWL. “He said ‘I’m a different person coming into this season.'”

Harbaugh’s known for his standoffs with media, being tight-lipped in pressers, and his crazy antics on the sideline that were scarce in 2017.

He’s also known for the struggles the quarterbacks, and offense as a whole, had in the 2017 season; Critical play-calling; And having staff members that fans have made Twitter accounts dedicated to the hope that they’re terminated.

So this begs some questions for the polarizing head coach that’s heading into his 4th season in Ann Arbor.

What will he change?

Will he really change?

Is Shea Patterson eligible?

There’s going to be plenty of questions for Harbaugh on this topic of change. Because most media members never predicted that Harbaugh would step back and change nor reinvent himself.

The change isn’t exclusive to just him, though.

Offensive coordinator/OL coach Tim Drevno is changing, too.

A source told TWL that Drevno gathered the Wolverines o-line and apologized to them for his coaching this past season. Fans were critical of Drevno, but it sounds like Drevno himself was even more critical.

For a staff that loves to stick to its guns, and hand off to tight ends, it’s a sign of light for this fan base to hear that the staff realizes it needs an update. Whether that update comes in offensive scheme, play calls, a new offensive coordinator, or anything in between, is yet to be seen.

For those who were wondering: Michigan sounds like it’s not comfortable. It looks to be showing more urgency than ever before under the Harbaugh era.


Harbaugh during a press conference at Big Ten Media Day in 2017.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

An autistic tiger can't change it's very neatly arranged stripes, Jimbo.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Friday blues for the scUM fans over todays recruiting announcement

DJMich23

Joined: 11/07/2012
MGoPoints: 398


I feel like OSU is America
I feel like OSU is America during the cold War. Michigan is Russia, severely losing the arms race against their largest competitor in a sobering and humiliating fashion.

Jmer

Joined: 12/26/2014
MGoPoints: 2716


Out of curiosity
What about the Michigan football or basketball programs make you feel well?

Maynard

Joined: 02/19/2016
MGoPoints: 7564


Holy shit. I knew it was bad
Holy shit. I knew it was bad but damn, that is pathetic.

maize-blue

Joined: 01/10/2013
MGoPoints: 27500


The coaches kind of took 2017
The coaches kind of took 2017 off. Letting OSU steal this recruitment is one of the results.

 

[Steve19]

What TSUN fans experience every year..

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

The coaches didn't take 2017 off. They just aren't all that good at their jobs, and Hairball's act is wearing thin. Gee... what year is this of his regime? 3 going into 4? Hmmmm... has there ever been another stop or two where that pattern had been established prior to his arriving in Ann Arbor? I can't recall, but it seems to me there WAS a stop or two where he wore out his welcome about 3 or 4 years in.

 

[Steve19]

You just shut up your mouth, right now! Wait until he has his own recruits. Just you wait. You'll see. Manly. That is what he brings. New levels of manly. Be very afraid.

 

[jwinslow]

 

[Buckeye513]

 

[Tanner]

This is alarming in the best way possible. Stole this from mgo

Iowa since 2001: 139-78 overall, 83-55 B1G, 2 conference titles, 7-8 in bowls
ttun since 2001: 138-77 overall, 86-52 B1G, 2 conference titles, 4-10 in bowls

 

[NFBuck]

The staff wasn't just after him for two years, they were in the drivers seat until a month or two ago. That to me is the most disappointing thing about this one. That and the fact that OSU continues to be able to just step up late and get almost any recruit they want.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]