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Troy Smith and Ted Ginn Jr.

Discussion in 'Buckeye Alumni' started by scooter1369, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. scarletngrey11

    scarletngrey11 All right, all right, all right.

    Sounded very classly except for one comment that I loved.

    The reporter asked him what are the similarities between him and Vince Young, and he went on about how they arent really that similar and Vince went to Texas but I went to OSU he said. Then he said, "I may be biased, but Ohio State football is better than Texas," or something like that.

    He talked up Gonzo and Roy Hall along with obviously Ginn.

    EDIT: Then he said around campus on gameday its "pandemonium (spelling?)" and its too great to even describe or understand you have to be there to experience it.
     
  2. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    DDN

    Quote:
    Buckeyes unveil pair of Heisman candidates today

    Troy Smith's love of Ohio spared coach embarrassment of recruiting snub.


    By Doug Harris
    Staff Writer


    Saturday, September 02, 2006


    COLUMBUS — Ohio State spent so much time schmoozing Justin Zwick while recruiting in 2002 that it had little love left for other highly rated quarterbacks in that class, much less the athletic but unpolished Troy Smith.
    Coach Jim Tressel never promised Smith, a Cleveland Glenville High School star, a chance to compete for a starting job as a freshman, saying he'd have to spend his first season auditioning at other positions while the more-heralded Zwick did battle with upperclassmen Craig Krenzel and Scott McMullen.
    Although he had offers from West Virginia and others, Smith managed to overlook the snub because his heart was set on becoming a Buckeye.
    "This is where I'm from," he said. "I'm not going to want to live anywhere else. It upsets me sometimes when I hear college students say they want to go where there's no snow. I wouldn't want to have Christmas without snow.
    "I love Ohio. I love Columbus. I love Cleveland. Who else is going to make our state and our cities better besides us?"
    Smith spared the Buckeyes a major recruiting blunder. And his choice opened a Glenville pipeline that would lead to Ted Ginn Jr. joining him two years later, giving OSU a pair of legitimate Heisman candidates this season.
    After leading the Big Ten in passing efficiency as a junior last season, Smith's stock is rising faster than corporate CEO salaries. He's completed 61 percent of his career passes so far — the school's best mark ever.
    And Ginn is blossoming into a feared receiver and will go into his junior year already possessing the OSU career record for punt-return touchdowns with five. But he's not exactly preoccupied with the Heisman.
    "I came to Ohio State to play football first and go to school," he said. "I got here and saw the opportunity to make things happen and I did. Being a Heisman front-runner is great, and it's a good award to win. But I'm just going to play hard for my seniors and have fun doing it."

    Contact this reporter at 225-2125 or at dharris@DaytonDailyNews.com.



    RELATED


    Glenville greats
    2005 Statistics
    Troy Smith
    Passing: 2,282 yards, 16 TDs, four interceptions, .629 completion rate
    Rushing: 611, 11 TDs

    Ted Ginn Jr.
    Receiving: 51 catches, 803 yards, 4 TDs
    Punt and kick returns: 2 TDs
    Heisman Trophy leaders
    Notre Dame (7): Angelo Bertelli, John Lujack, Leon Hart, John Lattner, Paul Hornung. John Huarte, Tim Brown
    Southern Cal (7): Mike Garrett, O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush
    Ohio State (6): Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, Howard "Hopalong" Cassady, Archie Griffin (2), Eddie George
     
  3. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall... Staff Member

    Man, I love those quotes. One thing that will help Smith in the eyes of heisman voters is his moxie. The guy is a very articulate interview, which could help catipult him to top if it's a tight vote.
     
  4. Smith/Ginn'06

    Smith/Ginn'06 Newbie

    He was also a qb!, which Ginn is not. Leinart is not regretting his decision as they almost repeated, I do not see how it cost him? Did he not just sign a huge contract in the NFL for gazillions of dollars. The only thing he lost was the prestige of being picked #1 (which was no certainty). If anything this shows it would be much easies for Ginn to stay as Leinart had even more going for him and he came back.
     
  5. Crystal76

    Crystal76 Muck Fichigan

    Ohhh lordy, Don't I know it. That is all they talk about on the news here.

    I swear my TV station will push back anything to make ND their top story.

    There could be a 50 car pile up on the toll road, and they would lead a story about Charlie Weis tooting during practice today...*sighs*

    I have no issues with ND really....
     
  6. Crystal76

    Crystal76 Muck Fichigan

    I find it humorous, that Troy Smith out classed Brady Quinn in every way during their bowl game, yet all the attention is being thrown Brady Quinn's way. I am not saying that Brady isn't a great QB, but againist that Buckeye Defense he didn't stand a chance....Add to the fact Troy was in his zone...He just really made a HUGE case for national attention.
     
  7. 4Heisman

    4Heisman Banned

    That's cause the bowl game doesn't have anything to do with this season.
     
  8. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Blade

    Article published Sunday, September 3, 2006
    [​IMG]
    Smith, Ginn fire first shots in Heisman battle

    COLUMBUS - Can you cut the Heisman Trophy in half?
    Give half to Ohio State senior quarterback Troy Smith. Give the other half to Buckeyes junior receiver Ted Ginn Jr. Interchangable parts on the nation's top-ranked college football team, Troy Ginn led Ohio State to the brink of a blowout yesterday against Northern Illinois. Ted Smith pushed the Buckeyes over the top. When it was over, when Ohio State's 35-12 blowout win was still fresh in the minds of yet another giddy six-figure sellout crowd on its way out of Ohio Stadium, the dominance displayed by Smith and Ginn left nothing to the imagination. Their performance was awe-inspiring. Riveting. Intimidating. Heisman worthy. Smith passed for 297 yards and three touchdowns, but the numbers don't begin to tell the story of how thoroughly he dominated the action. Northern Illinois was forced to account for Smith's every move. Ginn caught four passes for 123 yards and recorded his first two-touchdown catch game. His chemistry with Smith, his old high school buddy from Cleveland, made it seem like they were playing catch in the backyard. The Smith-Ginn Victory Tour overwhelmed poor Northern Illinois on the way to bigger and better things Saturday against No. 2 Texas. Ohio State scored touchdowns on its first four possessions, bolting to a 28-0 lead and leaving reporters to contemplate the last time two legitimate Heisman candidates played on the same team. Answer: USC (Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart) last year. Truth be told, Smith and Ginn are only as good as the game plan, and the coaches who devise them. They will continue to provide material for TV highlight reels because coach Jim Tressel has picked up where he left off last season and kept his playbook wide open. Instead of a boring off-tackle run, OSU's first play of 2006 featured Smith drilling a 32-yard pass to Brian Hartline. Smith capped the eight-play, 66-yard drive with a five-yard scoring toss to Ginn, who stopped on a dime at the goal line to receive the pass while defensive back Alvah Hansbro continued to backpedal furiously and take himself out of the play. The next time OSU had the ball, Smith and Ginn collaborated on a 58-yard touchdown. Smith, who has significantly improved his accuracy but still needs work on his long passes, seemed to misjudge just how fast Ginn can run. Ginn, the high school national champion in the 110 high hurdles, was forced to wait on Smith's bomb like an outfielder circling a fly ball. He was so far behind the defense it still didn't matter, but Northern Illinois shouldn't be confused with Texas in terms of team speed. The same thing happened on a 56-yard bomb in the fourth quarter that should have resulted in another touchdown but didn't because Ginn slowed down for Smith's toss. However, that would be nit-picking. Smith was merely flawless, not perfect. As good as he played yesterday, his ceiling is much higher. Ohio State's performance was quite sufficient to hold off Northern Illinois, which, with the exception of dynamic running back Garrett Wolfe, proved to be little more than Mid-American Conference road kill. When schools like Northern Illinois travel to Columbus, they're playing money ball. The Huskies were paid somewhere in the exclusive neighborhood of $500,000 to play the Buckeyes. Talk about throwing a team under the bus. Go Greyhound. Leave the driving to Smith and Ginn.
     
  9. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    BSB $

    analysis of the duo's performance against NIU.
     
  10. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Link

    Ohio State friends downplay Heisman talk

    Buckeyes? Smith, Ginn could help their causes with big games against Texas
    By Rusty Miller - Associated Press Sports Writer
    Friday, September 8, 2006



    COLUMBUS, OHIO ? It?s one thing to compete for the Heisman Trophy with someone a couple of time zones away. It?s quite another when that other person is in the same locker room.
    USC?s Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart know what that?s all about. Leinart won the Heisman two years ago, Bush last season.
    Now, Troy Smith and Ted Ginn Jr. take their turn. And Bush has some advice for the two Ohio State stars, who could put their candidacies into overdrive with big games when the No. 1 Buckeyes play at No. 2 Texas on Saturday night.
    ?Matt and I weren?t competing against each other,? said Bush, now with the New Orleans Saints. ?There was no animosity or anything like that. We were just two guys trying to win a championship.?
    Smith and Ginn ? good friends and high school teammates in Cleveland ? say all the Heisman talk is secondary to team goals and victories.
    ?It?s cool,? said Ginn, a lightning-quick junior wide receiver and kick returner. ?But I?m not going to base my season on the Heisman. I?m going to base my season on playing hard for my seniors and trying to win the national championship.?
    Smith, the Buckeyes? big-play quarterback, denied there was a competition between the two.
    ?The funny thing about that is, I feel that if Ted wins it, then I?ll feel that I also won it. You know what I mean? And I hope, vice versa. Because you can?t have one without the other,? the fifth-year senior said. ?He?s my vote to win it because I really, really think he?s the most exciting player in college football. He?s the best college football player there is.?
    [​IMG] Terry Gilliam/AP Photo
    Ohio state?s troy Smith, left, and Ted Ginn Jr. celebrate a touchdown against Northern Illinois on Saturday in Columbus, Ohio.

    The two remain close and spend an inordinate amount of time together. They insist there?s no jealousy. Still, coach Jim Tressel is keenly aware of how outside factors can divide a team. He?s keeping an eye on how Smith and Ginn handle the pressure.
    ?You have to, for their sakes,? Tressel said. ?They?ve got to handle that hype. They have to make sure that it doesn?t take over any of their thinking.?
    Teammates haven?t noticed any changes in either player. Then again, neither seems to have a need to command the spotlight.
    Smith is always careful to credit his offensive line, his coaching staff, the fans ? just about everyone and anyone but himself. Possessed with a shifty running style and a powerful right arm, he ran for 11 touchdowns and passed for 16 more (with just four interceptions) last season.
    He said he?s humbled by the preliminary Heisman talk.
    ?Anytime your name is mentioned in the same breath as such a prestigious award, you sort of get blown away,? the senior said.
    Ginn has six kick returns for touchdowns in his two seasons at Ohio State. A year ago he showed he had hands to go with those legs, catching 51 passes for 803 yards and four touchdowns. With Santonio Holmes gone to the NFL, Ginn?s role in the offense will undoubtedly grow even larger.
    Not surprisingly, the two are linked by opposing teams. Just as they could split the Heisman vote, they also divide the attention of defenses.
    ?We really can?t go out there and focus on just Troy Smith or focus on Ted Ginn,? Texas safety Michael Griffin said.
    Ginn said the two must play together just as they did years ago when they played catch at Glenville High School.
     
  11. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    I don't know if Troy's interview skills will help him much in the Heisman voting process, but they should be worth a few million come NFL Combine/Pro Day/NFL Draft time.
     
  12. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall... Staff Member

    A guy that is well liked by the media has a hell of a lot better chance of winning I would think. But then again, what do I know? :biggrin:

    :oh:
     
  13. Bleed S & G

    Bleed S & G Taking Crazy Pills

    agreed. I dont see how being a nice articulate (sp) guy can hurt. Much better than being an asshole
     
  14. Bleed S & G

    Bleed S & G Taking Crazy Pills

    Last years bowl games helped determine who the heisman front runners are for this season. Thats the game that catapulted him into the top 3.. he did obviously great against UM but the fiesta bowl is what got most of the heisman hype rolling

    not to mention that game went a long way to making us the #1 team this year, we lose that game we are NOT the preseason #1 team.. so the bowl game does have alot more to do with this season than you think

    My answer to the question why is brady getting more attention than troy:
    1.) I disagree, I think Troys getting lots of attention and
    2.) Brady plays for Notre Dame

    Not because the bowl game has nothing to do with this season.. if that were the case brady would be getting shit at this point after a 0 TD (throwing) and the game coming down to 4th and 1 when the #2 team in the country against an unranked opponet. Whereas Troy went 18 for 25 for 298 yards and 3 TDs
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2006
  15. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    BN $

    Teddy discusses the new SI cover and his outlook on the season while Troy discusses overcoming complacency this week.
     

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