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2022 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Essentially just approach transfer portal as free agency like you said. I'm sure there will be a number of guys willing to suit up for OSU, and if Day is honest with them, they'll get some mop up duty, and then pursue Davis for 2023

Originally I would have said it's too risky to think there will always be someone but anymore, I'd say it's a safer play than locking up a scholarship for 4 years on a project/program guy.

Who knows?
 
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Essentially just approach transfer portal as free agency like you said. I'm sure there will be a number of guys willing to suit up for OSU, and if Day is honest with them, they'll get some mop up duty, and then pursue Davis for 2023
Exactly... Have to figure we lose 2 either during or after this season. No idea what we do if Stroud goes off this year and gets to NYC for example which wouldn't surprise me. Day couldn't replace Stroud then with Ewers if Stroud does that I'd think.

Either way we just need another depth guy to get back to 3 after this season I'd think.
 
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Exactly... Have to figure we lose 2 either during or after this season. No idea what we do if Stroud goes off this year and gets to NYC for example which wouldn't surprise me. Day couldn't replace Stroud then with Ewers if Stroud does that I'd think.

Either way we just need another depth guy to get back to 3 after this season I'd think.
And the way kids are transferring we could land guys who were just as highly rated as the guys we may lose. We may be in a tough spot but a lot of schools will also lose kids that were once high star kids. Or a kid could just fit our system and be willing to sit behind Ewers(or whomever is the future QB), but was developed elsewhere.
 
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IMO go with no QB in 2022 and bring in a transfer for depth. Let's be real if we brought in someone in 2022 they arent playing over Ewers so may as well bring in a depth guy via the portal like a Chug.

I think it might be a portal and a 2022 guy

If someone claims the job in the spring next year the other 3 QBs could transfer out

hypothetically Ewers and a portal guy would be the only two scholarship QBs for 2022

Would two back ups come in via the portal?

a 2022 guy would probably never play but could be a depth guy and transfer out after a couple years
 
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Would two back ups come in via the portal?

I think Ryan Days reputation as a coach and talent developer (and his reputation amongst other coaches and QB gurus) should ensure a reliable pipeline of grad transfers that will want to come here and get a head start on eventual coaching careers. Granted, there will be a lot more Gunnar Hoaks and Chris Chuganovs and Jagger LaRoes than Justin Fields, but I’m not worried.
 
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Too much is being made of an immediate Ewers transfer if he doesn’t win job by year 2.

I don’t think that’s the blueprint at all. He’s here to learn and develop, and if immediate playing time was an issue, he wouldn’t be coming to tOSU early.

He will have his opportunity in next 3-4 years while developing under Day which was the ultimate reason he came.

The only way I see him leaving is if he gets recruited over or Day and staff basically say “see you later” like they did with Tathan.

I don’t love how this situation played out, but I also think people need to be level headed here. The end game is NFL development. Not starting doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t being developed. Plenty of recent NFL QB’s who had to sit and wait their turn (Mac Jones being most recent example).
 
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Too much is being made of an immediate Ewers transfer if he doesn’t win job by year 2.

I don’t think that’s the blueprint at all. He’s here to learn and develop, and if immediate playing time was an issue, he wouldn’t be coming to tOSU early.

He will have his opportunity in next 3-4 years while developing under Day which was the ultimate reason he came.

The only way I see him leaving is if he gets recruited over or Day and staff basically say “see you later” like they did with Tathan.

I don’t love how this situation played out, but I also think people need to be level headed here. The end game is NFL development. Not starting doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t being developed. Plenty of recent NFL QB’s who had to sit and wait their turn (Mac Jones being most recent example).

Fully agree. Ewers and his family aren't dumb. They know the college game is much more difficult than HS and he doesn't strike as the type of egotistical kid that will bolt after year 2. He and CJ seemed to strike up a good relationship at Elite 11, and I think he also saw how much more advanced CJ is than he is as well. Best case scenario: CJ is a 2yr starter and then hands the reins to Quinn for 1(praying for 2) year. Worst case: CJ stays for 2-3yrs, McCord stays and beats out Ewers, and Ewers transfers. Either way, OSU wins with the most talented player.
 
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Too much is being made of an immediate Ewers transfer if he doesn’t win job by year 2.

I don’t think that’s the blueprint at all. He’s here to learn and develop, and if immediate playing time was an issue, he wouldn’t be coming to tOSU early.

He will have his opportunity in next 3-4 years while developing under Day which was the ultimate reason he came.

The only way I see him leaving is if he gets recruited over or Day and staff basically say “see you later” like they did with Tathan.

I don’t love how this situation played out, but I also think people need to be level headed here. The end game is NFL development. Not starting doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t being developed. Plenty of recent NFL QB’s who had to sit and wait their turn (Mac Jones being most recent example).
Ugh see I don't know... I'm not sure he'd be patient enough to wait 2+ years to play. Nor should he be with how talented he is.

If McCord/Stroud can hold Ewers off? Then that should tell is all we need to know how talented those two are then.
 
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The 3 star Ohio project kid who would stay 4 years should not be forgotten in this scenario.
This doesn't necessarily apply to top tier guys like Ewers, but I would think there is a tier of players who will stay for 4 years now with NIL being in place than head off to the NFL after 3 years only to be a second day pick. It'll be interesting to see what the money does top to bottom. Seems everyone is thinking about the money at the top end of the talent spectrum, I think the middle of it may prove the most important.
 
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BKB's "middle" of the player theory sounds like a real possibility. You take the NFL money making idea temporally off the table if there is some NIL money available. Stay in school for 4 years build a better "image". Have some money for expenses, projects, family.
 
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This doesn't necessarily apply to top tier guys like Ewers, but I would think there is a tier of players who will stay for 4 years now with NIL being in place than head off to the NFL after 3 years only to be a second day pick. It'll be interesting to see what the money does top to bottom. Seems everyone is thinking about the money at the top end of the talent spectrum, I think the middle of it may prove the most important.

But if you think about it a little further. Wouldn't NIL and profiting in college make some guys stay as backups on elite teams? Would it benefit a kid like Ewers to even sit the bench at OSU if he doesnt win the job vs transferring to a possible lesser known school and playing? I use Ewers solely as an example as we all know that he's talented. But will some highly rated kids stay at schools like OSU, Clemson, OU, Bama, etc instead of transferring, if they know that the NFL may not be realistic. I.e., would Tate Martell stay at OSU if NIL were around. He could make big money at Columbus as a backup with his social media presence instead of going to a mediocre Miami team and riding the pine. Idk, just another angle to think about, as the NIL could possibly help teams like OSU keep their players from transferring, as they could make more possibly on the bench at OSU playing against the best and possibly getting in, as opposed to transferring to Toledo or BG, starting But don't have the same NIL resources
 
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This doesn't necessarily apply to top tier guys like Ewers, but I would think there is a tier of players who will stay for 4 years now with NIL being in place than head off to the NFL after 3 years only to be a second day pick. It'll be interesting to see what the money does top to bottom. Seems everyone is thinking about the money at the top end of the talent spectrum, I think the middle of it may prove the most important.

With you 100%. I mentioned something along these lines in Ewers thread.

NIL money is the wildcard that could change the dynamic of people transferring out over PT. Only a handful of schools that have the fanbase/NIL$ to make a transfer from OSU anything but a paycut.
 
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I think it might be a portal and a 2022 guy

a 2022 guy would probably never play but could be a depth guy and transfer out after a couple years

There’s now a need to recruit a 2022 quarterback, and it’d be huge surprise if Allar wasn’t the first one to receive a call from Ryan Day. The country’s top 33 quarterbacks are all committed, and Allar is one closest to home for the Buckeyes. Ohio State isn’t likely to offer a player committed to another school if it doesn’t feel they can pull off an eventual flip, though. Penn State has two quarterbacks committed in the Class of 2022 — the Buckeyes have none — so maybe that’s where the conversation starts.
I don’t expect that call to be as easy as folks would imagine. Allar grew up dreaming of playing for Ohio State in a way that most Ohio kids did, but he’s now helped the Nittany Lions build the country’s top-ranked recruiting class and is the centerpiece of James Franklin’s plans for Penn State’s future offense. Day and the Buckeyes have what seems a fairly clear path to him running out of the tunnel as the starting quarterback for Ohio State in 2024.
 
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