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tOSU Indiscretions of May (Mega Merge)

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BuckeyeBill73 said:
However, as always, I'd like to see what the question was that triggered that response.
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Agreed. The response: "So, yeah, a coach's job falls on the line, including mine if I continue to allow a program to emerge and operate that way." tells me it was a guided question which then allowed previously-stated speculation which then allows reader to assume JT's job is in serious trouble (or at least beyond PC public statements by AD) which then leads to wide-spread concern in Buckeye Nation which then leads to more newspaper sales/website hits....

One big vicious cycle...God Bless em all.
 
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Lloyd: No, they wouldn't: there would be no crime, so there would be no issue.

Strohs: the initial estimate of a half-pound was extremely high, and eventually the tally was determined to be 70-200 grams. That's not much at all, with a street value of $100-300.

LightningRod: Sorry, but I take a less bureaucratic view of life. There's more going on than rules and consequences.

BN27: I have only suggested that campus cops make such an gesture for scholarship-athletes, since the university has a more mutual relationship with them and should be making more of an effort to keep them clean. Of course, no college students should ever be arrested for weed (do you realize this also means no financial aid ever again?), but I understand the pencil-pushers have their quotas...

LloydSev said:
It appears as if Kevin here believes that since these crimes are committed on campus property, they are less severe than if they happened off campus..

Any comments on that?
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Nope, just making a simple observation: is my literal statement untrue?

To take it further, though, are the dorms even "the streets" (quotations implying the slangy sense you used)? Are dorm-bound college kids really living on the streets? Do you doubt that college kids in dorms are somewhat insulated from the real world that lies across High Street? I can't think of a much safer environment to experiment in, to be honest.
 
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KevinBuck said:
Strohs: the initial estimate of a half-pound was extremely high, and eventually the tally was determined to be 70-200 grams. That's not much at all, with a street value of $100-300.
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You know I've wondered since the beginning if Skeete was just a middle man who got busted in the wrong place.

Was he hooking up the bulk or busting it up into the 8ths, Qtrs, etc....?

I knew plenty of guys in college who made a few bucks taxing a QP...
 
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BN27: I have only suggested that campus cops make such an gesture for scholarship-athletes, since the university has a more mutual relationship with them and should be making more of an effort to keep them clean. Of course, no college students should ever be arrested for weed (do you realize this also means no financial aid ever again?), but I understand the pencil-pushers have their quotas...
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so you agree that your malarkey about Skeete being a supposedly good kid and this warning might straighten him out doesn't really have anything to do with the question I asked?
 
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To take it further, though, are the dorms even "the streets" (quotations implying the slangy sense you used)? Are dorm-bound college kids really living on the streets? Do you doubt that college kids in dorms are somewhat insulated from the real world that lies across High Street? I can't think of a much safer environment to experiment in, to be honest.
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I think, regardless of where you commit a crime.. it is still a crime.
 
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osugrad21 said:
You know I've wondered since the beginning if Skeete was just a middle man who got busted in the wrong place.

Was he hooking up the bulk or busting it up into the 8ths, Qtrs, etc....?

I knew plenty of guys in college who made a few bucks taxing a QP...
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With the amount involved, Skeete was definitely some sort of middle man unless he's got a major growing operation going on as well: that's really why this raises my hackles so much, since they only got the little fish. As always happens, the dealer finds a new mover, and the weed is still available.
 
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KevinBuck said:
With the amount involved, Skeete was definitely some sort of middle man unless he's got a major growing operation going on as well:
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I should have explained better...

For instance, I had a roommate who had friends from "back home" come to see him in CBus. The guy would front the cash for larger amounts (QP, HP, LB) then have it for a short time until the friend came to get it. He would "tax" the quantity to make a few bucks...

Never dealt...but was a hookup between parties.
 
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LightningRod said:
I don't know where to begin. It is society's obligation to provide financial aid to the student irregardless of behavior? The student knows the score - get caught with drugs, and you lose your financial aid. So, we as a society should repeal all drug laws in order to permit a student who has his/her priorities out of whack to toke at will? I guess I am naive.
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That's completely backwards. It's not society's obligation to provide aid to criminals (could you misread me more?), but it's not their obligation to revoke all rights to such aid just for minor drug crimes either. And it's not about helping one student, it's about helping the 600,000 people who were arrested on marijuana charges last year and have the double-whammy of a criminal record and no chance at financial aid. It's a fucked-up bureaucracy that hurts the petty rule-breakers and lets the blackmarket dealers keep getting rich, and anyone who thinks the War on Drugs is working is naive.

...but, I have a feeling I'm about to get warned for going way off topic, so I'm done with this now. See you on the Open Discussion board...
 
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osugrad21 said:
I should have explained better...

For instance, I had a roommate who had friends from "back home" come to see him in CBus. The guy would front the cash for larger amounts (QP, HP, LB) then have it for a short time until the friend came to get it. He would "tax" the quantity to make a few bucks...

Never dealt...but was a hookup between parties.
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Ummm. I have news for you: under the law, your friend was dealing.
 
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KevinBuck said:
Lloyd: No, they wouldn't: there would be no crime, so there would be no issue.



BN27: I have only suggested that campus cops make such an gesture for scholarship-athletes, since the university has a more mutual relationship with them and should be making more of an effort to keep them clean. Of course, no college students should ever be arrested for weed (do you realize this also means no financial aid ever again?), but I understand the pencil-pushers have their quotas...
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I can't put my brain around the way you think. You are defending a drug dealer and putting the blame on the "pencil pushers" who risk their lives every day they go to work.
 
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KevinBuck said:
...but it's not their obligation to revoke all rights to such aid just for minor drug crimes either. And it's not about helping one student, it's about helping the 600,000 people who were arrested on marijuana charges last year and have the double-whammy of a criminal record and no chance at financial aid. It's a fucked-up bureaucracy that hurts the petty rule-breakers and lets the blackmarket dealers keep getting rich, and anyone who thinks the War on Drugs is working is naive.

...but, I have a feeling I'm about to get warned for going way off topic, so I'm done with this now. See you on the Open Discussion board...
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I've held myself out of jumping into the middle of this clusterfuck, but this comment is too much for me to pass on.

First of all, financial aid is not a "right" that every person is entitled to. When you agree to accept it, you are doing so under certain conditions; one of which is that you are not caught selling drugs. It's the law; plain and simple.

Second, ask any one of the 600,000 people who were arrested on marijuana charges if they knew what they were doing was legal or not. If they knew it was against the law, and did it anyway, I have no sympathy for them. If they actually thought it was legal, they're too fucking stupid to go to college anyway, so they have no use for financial aid.

Suggesting Skeete just needed to be "scared straight" is just plain stupid. He knew the risk of getting caught dealing and if that alone didn't scare him enough to make him stop, nothing any coach/teacher/adult was going to either. He sold drugs illegally; and not just once either; he did it twice, to an undercover cop. Who knows how many sales he made to non-cops and wasn't caught for them. He is a drug dealer, plain and simple, and has no place on the Ohio State University's football team.
 
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