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Men's basketball: OSU could face APR sanction
Oden leaving school early may factor into loss of scholarship
Friday, December 7, 2007 3:22 AM
By Encarnacion Pyle

Ohio State still faces the possibility of losing a men's basketball scholarship next season, in part because Greg Oden dropped out of school in May to go to the NBA. OSU has turned in its Academic Progress Rate numbers to the NCAA, and the two groups are in the process of determining whether the school will be penalized. OSU expects to know the outcome by February.
"We're in pretty good shape currently with many, many, many teams showing improvement, but basketball still remains a challenge," said John Bruno, a psychology professor who serves as a faculty liaison between academics and athletics. "Still, we have not yet heard from the NCAA that any of our programs are subject to sanctions."



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I have mentioned this before about being concerned with all the one and done players we might be getting. I know from reading the article that Matta does not think that we will lose a scholarship but I wish that if we do get more one and done players that they will at least stay through Spring quarter and maintain good academic standing.

Perhaps Thad should stress that when he recruits possible players who might be here the entire four years. I know it is difficult to get guarantees but I think Thad is straight up with the guys so hopefully they would be straight with him.
 
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If OSU loses one next year, when do they get it back again?

For now, OSU has not filled Babbitt's slot, so if OSU is punished, can they get that schollie back for an '09 PF, like Sidney?
 
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jwinslow;1021889; said:
If OSU loses one next year, when do they get it back again?

For now, OSU has not filled Babbitt's slot, so if OSU is punished, can they get that schollie back for an '09 PF, like Sidney?
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I am almost positive that they lose it for only one year.

They will have room for Sydney or someone else if they do lose it for 2008.

What concerns me is if Mullens or Buford decide to go early or even Kosta this year. They just need to finish out in good standing.
 
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But, we're all still pretty happy that Oden and friends stopped by for a national championship run right? I mean, it was worth it just to break all those heart over on the Wake Forest site, wasn't it?:wink2:
 
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Steve19;1022081; said:
But, we're all still pretty happy that Oden and friends stopped by for a national championship run right? I mean, it was worth it just to break all those heart over on the Wake Forest site, wasn't it?:wink2:
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I will not deny that I enjoyed the run as much as anybody but my point was that if Oden would have finished up Spring quarter in academic good standing we might be a little better off and I am not saying we are going to take a hit because of him. If we do so be it but he certainly wouldn't be the only cause.

I have nothing against Greg. I think the one-year rule is stupid and we can thank the NBA Players Association for that.
 
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graveyard.roses;1022118; said:
What do you think it stupid about it? Do you think it's stupid because you feel it should be longer, or because you feel it shouldn't be in place?
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I personally think it should not be in place. I believe it ruins college basketball. I do not think that one year of college really helps a player that much and if he is good enough to go pro out of high school he should be allowed to. However, once he decides to attend college I believe that he should be committed to that college for at least two, if not three, years.

Even in college baseball, once a kid starts college he is bound to that college for three years and I really don't think basketball is that much different physically than baseball. If a kid is good enough to play professional baseball right out of high school, one year of college isn't going to make him a better player and I believe that is the same for basketball. A couple years of college probably would make the kid a better person but I don't know if he would be that much better as a player.
 
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LitlBuck - While I would applaud an "in for 3" premise for College Basketball, I cannot see it working all the time. There are two forces working against it. By far the strongest is the NBA - there is no indication that they will honor the system proposed. They would likely up their efforts to reel in very promising High Schoolers into some type of pro contract. (Europe or other developmental status).

More insidious, though likely less prevalent, would be a student who signed the promissory note, yet have no intention of fulfilling their obligations. Such an individual could do all that was needed to remain eligible to play, then dump the academics post season. Result, a swift exit on academic grounds, followed by acceptance into the ranks of the pros the following year - most likely after a European tour for pay.
 
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Well, I think it goes against everything that we heard of Greg Oden before he came to Ohio State and during his brief stay at the school. We heard that he was a person very dedicated to school, a person who loved school. I remember him saying that there was a good chance he'd stay in school all 4 years because his mother wants him to graduate. Maybe he felt that this wasn't the time for him to continue at school, or maybe the talk about him being a dedicated student was a bit overblown.
 
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graveyard.roses;1022612; said:
Well, I think it goes against everything that we heard of Greg Oden before he came to Ohio State and during his brief stay at the school. We heard that he was a person very dedicated to school, a person who loved school. I remember him saying that there was a good chance he'd stay in school all 4 years because his mother wants him to graduate. Maybe he felt that this wasn't the time for him to continue at school, or maybe the talk about him being a dedicated student was a bit overblown.
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Or maybe when the $$$ showed up, it was too tempting to turn down. I don't begrudge the fact that he took the money instead of staying for all four years because I think all of us would do the same. I just wish he would have finished spring quarter.
 
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Yeah, I wasn't talking about staying all four years for basketball. I just thought that from what I heard about him liking school that he would have stayed in school, for academics, longer. But, like I said, he may feel this is not the right time for him to continue school and is looking to return at a later time.
 
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Men's basketball: Buckeyes braced for APR score, hit
Program hopes to avoid being docked one scholarship
Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:30 AM
By Bob Baptist


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH




Ohio State expects to lose a men's basketball scholarship for one year when the NCAA announces its annual Academic Progress Rate scores for schools next month. "It's likely," John Bruno, the university's faculty athletics representative, said yesterday. He said Ohio State is aware of the NCAA's findings but cannot reveal them until the NCAA releases all schools' scores May 7.
Bruno also said Ohio State has submitted an academic improvement plan for the men's basketball program in hopes that the NCAA will rescind the scholarship penalty. The NCAA will monitor the effectiveness of the plan for one or two years before deciding. In the meantime, the program can use its full complement of 13 scholarships.



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