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Game Thread tOSU at Penn State, Sat. Nov. 2, 12pm ET, FOX

After some time to re-watch and chart a bit, some thoughts.

*defense first*

- I still have concerns about Styles' eyes and decision making. Especially coming from depth in the 2 high shells. And when he's playing as an off-ball weakside nickel and dime backer, he's just lost at times. He's an athlete without a home when his mind needs to work.

- Igby should have been called for holding on that first Penn State drive that stalled out on 3rd down. Again the big deal is finding and striking the balance on the physicality of his wingspan usage. It's a great weapon, but not if you can't control it. He also needs to remember things like leaning into contact and not moving his feet, that will bite him in the ass sooner rather than later.

- Watching Jack Sawyer come off the ball from a 3 point reminds me of Patrick Jones from Pitt a few years ago. His motion is feels so robotic and un-fluid like. His steps are choppy and high while his pad level gets up too quick. I think that's what works to hinder his lack of elite burst and that initial edge threaten as much as anything.

- Cody Simon was doing a good job early of minimizing the grey areas in our zone coverages and choking off/limiting throws and YAC. That was nice to see a linebacker working eyes and body in sync.

- The DL showed flashes where they patiently layered their pass rush across the front and made escaping for Allar risky both laterally and vertically. It might not be sexy or immediate, but against QB's who can get happy feet, you have to play with that degree of methodical to you. Which they did after they settled in.







*offense second*

- Donovan Jackson made some money. He isn't an OT in the NFL, but his effort and play reminded me of Yanda. An IOL who played OT in a pinch and was serviceable doing it. That level of utility gets you bank. But DJ is still a guard at the next level, but a guard with quality feet.

- Penn State's defensive coaching staff was well aware of the pass pro issues the Bucks OL are having in straight drops. On Howards pick, PSU came out and bluffed pressure from a single high, then ended up rotating to cover 2. Their DB's and LB's sat heavy at the marker just watching Howards eyes. Which he obliged them by taking his pre-snap look for granted and didn't pick up the rotation. He lead them right to the throw.
It was something I spoke about and broke down in Will's thread as early as week 1. When the warning signs are there, that eventually means danger ahead. If he wants a shot at the NFL, you don't make those mistakes. That wasn't any type of super exotic look that he failed to appropriately account for. Ball security is priority #1 and turnovers will break your career. Just ask Jaemis Wintson.

With that, he was a much smoother operator later on. His best work was running the option on the read and the speed. He isn't an elite runner, but he has enough to punish and play to the design and he gets every inch of it. He also does good things extended plays and not prematurely dropping his eyes. That 'run to throw' type QB.

I'm slightly shocked, with how aggressive Penn State's Dline was getting upfield, that I didn't see any HB lead QB draws. PSU ran it a couple times for first downs. They were handing it to us, namely when they worked to attack Jackson playing LT. I feel that was a big missed opportunity by the coaching staff to at least show it was in the bag.

- Q Junk did work. Hendo too, can't really give much word on the RB's.

- Jeremiah continues to be special.

- Rest of the OL mauled rather well and fired off in the running game. But across the board they leave a lot to be desired in pass blocking.

- This team absolutely has to function through the play action and high percentage passing game.


Penn State is a decent team, but not what we would call a top 5 by any usual standard. So far, this feels like a pretty down year for college football in general. Can't spot the other team 2 quick scores, especially on the road. Bucks showed showed grit and bowed their necks in the redzone, but by that same vein, PSU really didn't put their best foot forward to take it either.

Grateful for all wins, especially road conference ones. But there's a lot of work to do with this squad.
Agreed on really every point after I watched again. But would emphasize that Jackson earned money in that game showing great feet and versatility. He's every bit of the recruiting ranking he received.

I will also emphasize the pass protection needs work, but also that is to be expected with the shuffling around. Hopefully the guys in now stay healthy and work out the kinks.

Last point is that PSU doesn't look like a traditional top 5 team, but really nobody outside of Oregon does right now. And they're hard to beat at their place. Defense did a great job but offense stepped it up when needed. Especially critical run plays. We'll need to get more explosive, but the next 2 games are the test drive to get there.
 
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Nearly 10 Million People Watched Ohio State Earn Its Eighth Straight Win Over Penn State​

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Nearly 10 million people tuned in to watch Ohio State earn its eighth straight win over Penn State.

FOX Sports announced Wednesday that an audience of 9.94 million viewers tuned in to watch the Buckeyes’ 20-13 victory over the Nittany Lions.


Someone posted that on Penn State's message board, and included that all other Ohio State - PSU games (non-noon games) are 7.3 million. I'm guessing that's average. The "Big Noon" games get 9.4 million. (Again, I'm guessing it's an average.)

How many still think it's a conspiracy against Penn State to put this game on at noon?
 
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When Styles doesn't think and just reacts, he's a game changer. I'm not sure what it is, he shows flashes of doing it consistently (MSU game) and then turns around the next game and hesitates. I have to remind myself though that he's, A) 19 years old still, and B) changing positions. I have unfair expectations for him right now because of the talent he has.

That's the problem, there are very few instances on a football field you can be put in that situation. When Styles is playing as an off-ball backer, he's hit and miss at best. When he plays a 2pt edge in Knowles odd fronts, he's a bit more free to just play fast and physical upfield or over a TE.
Second level is the glue that holds a defense together. Right now, he's the weak link in that unit and it isn't difficult to spot. I don't have much in the way of expectations, but I need to see consistent improvement from game 1 to the week before The Game. I think our interpretation of how he played against MSU is a lot different.

Agreed on really every point after I watched again. But would emphasize that Jackson earned money in that game showing great and versatility. He's every bit of the recruiting ranking he received.

I will also emphasize the pass protection needs work, but also that is to be expected with the shuffling around. Hopefully the guys in now stay healthy and work out the kinks.

Last point is that PSU doesn't look like a traditional top 5 team, but really nobody outside of Oregon does right now. And they're hard to beat at their place. Defense did a great job but offense stepped it up when needed. Especially critical run plays. We'll need to get more explosive, but the next 2 games are the test drive to get there.

- I think we're saying the same thing on the first bold.

- You're right on the shuffling of the OL. But even taking into account the lack of fill-ins elsewhere, I was still pretty underwhelmed.

- Efficiency > explosion. That pick Howard threw was oddly similar to how he threw the one against Sparty and almost threw a 2nd if not for an incredible catch by Jeremiah. The efficiency and turnover margin needs to be improved before I'll worry about a lack of explosive throws.
 
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So the thread is about how being the #5 seed is where you want to be. Then Bushwood... remember him? He's now "CJFisJoePall"... he decides to change the subject to how the Big Ten boned Penn State against Ohio State. Ha.

Not to mention that I think PSU beats duhO$U with a neutral non-b1g-homejob Officiating Crew. The announcing crew even admitted that Warren was first held all the way down the field and then hit early (i.e., tackled) before ball got there on PSU's first offensive series - neither holding or PI was called (loser Klatt goes into some ridiculous mumbo-jumbo about how the Officials told him "they're going to let them play" - I guess that means the Officials told Day their going to let him violate the Rulebook with impunity!). That was just the first series - there were at least three other duhO$U series where they had big running or passing plays where Klatt wanted to show what a great job their OL was doing and each time he literally said, "He probably got away with holding there, but you have to give them credit - they're really giving it their all out there. The Official probably ignored the holding because of the effort....". Huh? What? Klatt literally said on three different occassions that duhO$U scoring passing and running plays were aided by uncalled OL Holding, but he had no problem with it???? What an f'ing joke this league and fox are. On the 4th Down play, they literally grabbed and held Harrison Wallace III (#6) off the LOS through the pass (literally bear-hugging him) - no flag of any kind. Complete joke.
 
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So the thread is about how being the #5 seed is where you want to be. Then Bushwood... remember him? He's now "CJFisJoePall"... he decides to change the subject to how the Big Ten boned Penn State against Ohio State. Ha.
Right, because PSu wasn’t holding our Dline at all during the game
 
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No, they didn't. They can easily overturn the call, because it was called a TD on the field, and replay clearly showed it wasn't a TD. It also clearly showed the ball going over the pylon. Let's not be Penn State fans.
I have to agree with Nation here. It looked to me that Howard got the ball poked out, it hit his thigh as it came up, then went into and through the end zone.

OSU won, that's what matters.
 
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I have to agree with Nation here. It looked to me that Howard got the ball poked out, it hit his thigh as it came up, then went into and through the end zone.

OSU won, that's what matters.
The only thing that pissed me off about that play was that it took too long to review. It was painfully obvious that it was a touchback. I remember thinking that this may have been the first game I ever watched where I thought that replay called every single play the way that I would have called it
 
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