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tOSU at Penn State, Oct. 31, 7:30 ET, ABC

Earlier in the day yesterday, I predicted a 42-23 type of game. I knew PSU would score. They're a really good team. A few fuckery type things don't happen and that's exactly the score. I figured it would be closer for a half instead of the other way around. To bring the lol's, Penn State is "probably the best 0-2 team in the country right now." I think they've lost their last game this year.


I hate ends of games like that when they shut the play-calling down the entire 4th quarter and go vanilla. I understand game is in hand and they don't want to show anything, but there is no flow and the 4th quarter seems to drag along as we repeatedly put a tired defense that didn't play very well the 2nd half back onto the field. All bc they won't call plays on 3rd down that even give you a chance to pick up a 1st down. Quickest way to get the game over and out of there with the W and no injuries is to continue to move the chains not keep punting it back to PSU.

I've seen it enough to have a strong opinion that I don't care for it. If you are going to do that, put the back-ups in on offense and let them get some plays on tape so at least they are meaningful snaps. I don't feel they got any better running the crap they did in the 4th quarter.

I liked this post but I also wanted to follow on because I really feel the same way. Running Teague in to the line three times and punting while the game can still (possibly) be lost is bad management, and PSU is good enough to make us pay for that kind of thing. Running the ball is fine but not basic vanilla runs all the time like we saw for the last 6 or 7 minutes of offense. That also means you have to run Fields a few times if the D is going to be keying on the RB. Tell him to slide, get him outside, etc. You're doing him no favors by having him stand back to pass on obvious passing downs because your runs are ineffective, as evidenced by the hit he took late. If you're so worried about Fields taking hits, pull him and put your most mobile backup in there.

Also, our star defensive players, while not as critical as Fields, are still pretty key in a potential championship run. When you bottle up the offense and run your defensive out there more often, their O is going to be running their 2 minute offense trying to get the fast score. If Wade or Garrett get hurt in that scenario it's pretty bad looking forward.
 
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So they played subpar in several areas and still cruises past what is probably the toughest game left on the regular season schedule...are we ready to call it the B1G 1+13 yet?

Someone had that 247 chart up of the aggerate talent for each team and PSU is clearly the most talented team in the rest of B1G.

Those two teams are not close. They could play a series of 10 games and OSU is winning at least 9.

Taking a page from the old Tressel recruiting playbook, the talent difference at QB and 'big speed' is profound.
 
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What I'm referring to is eye movement, processing speed of his progressions, ball placement, throwing off pace, pocket footwork, etc etc. Completion percentage is about as poor of a metric as you could possibly throw out there, especially in the modern college game. But I appreciate you playing.

Justin does go through his progressions quite well, though maybe slightly worse than Haskins, probably the only advantage id give Haskins at this point though. And on ball placement, Fields has been more accurate through two games this year than Dwayne ever was. Dwayne was great, but he never looked this good. Period.

Neat. If this were true, Clemson would have been in our rear-view mirror.

I get what I'm saying won't be popular, but I don't just say shit to be contrarian.



Charlie Kelly, is that you?

Um what? What do the first two games of this season have to do with last year's playoff game? I never said Fields was a better thrower than Haskins last season. Irrelevant point. I appreciate your desire to be right though.

Well, Fields is still the starting QB from last year, correct?. So naturally where we left off the season against a quality opponent will be used as a benchmark. So there's that. Meanwhile you said...



Only to follow up with...



So which is it? Fields is a better passer than Haskins now? And if so, are you only using the 1st two games of the season as your demonstration to show marked improvement from the Clemson game?

Last year, I would have taken Dwayne over Justin as a passer. This year I would not based on what we've seen. I dont understand why youre having a hard time with that.

And yes I clearly am, Justin didn't look this good throwing last year, even again mediocre teams. If you think you can only gauge improvement by playing elite teams than I don't know what to tell you, I just think that's asinine. Not to mention, how many teams like Clemson 19 did Dwayne have to play? I'd argue Dwayne never played a truly "elite" team at all.

When you claim to be an elite team, that is EXACTLY how you gauge improvement, no?





3, if you go by DVOA top 20 results. Though Clemson's secondary/defensive rankings got a great boost from a lack of quality QB play in their own conference.

edit: And I will make this clear - I'm only ASKING the question. I'm not definitive either way. I think healthy observance and review is always a good thing the morning after enjoying a road win.

Is this where we act like its 2019 and Justin's downfield passing is the same as last year?
In Happy Valley:

'18 - 22/39 56% 270 yds 3 td 1 int
'20 - 28/34 82% 318 yds 4 td 0 int

In the final 9 minutes:

'18 - 06/08 75% 133 yds 2 td 0 int
'20 - 01/01 100% 12 yds 0 td 0 int

Before that comeback, Dwayne was 16/31 139 yds 1 td 1 int

I have no interest in excluding certain stats. They all count. Without them, it's a laugher. With them it becomes more competitive but still solidly in Justin's favor (despite being essentially shut down for that last period).

Justin is not perfect. He has better weapons than Dwayne, and does struggle with pocket footwork and how long he holds onto the ball, among other issues.

Dwayne was a flamethrower that covered for a bad defense. He also had two very good tailbacks, while Justin may not have any (largely health related).

Both are tremendous.

LOOK, we can all agree that neither Haskins nor Fields are as good as NuJesse Palmer or the Mormon kid.

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Saw this over at 11W



The graveyard thing is nearly The Rail level sad and, what's worse, they copied it from Rutgers (or some local middle school).

Going to be fun watching the implosion in that cauldron of depravity and sickness now that they've turned on Franklin and his recruiting is falling apart.

Nah, "The Rail" was the pinnacle of smug, self-over-rated stupidity. The writing on the plaque was just cringe worthy. This was no big deal - my father did this same thing for opponents of our high school, I think it's funny.
 
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A big game early in the season does not translate well to freshmen getting playing time. An away tilt at Penn State? In the second contest of the season? That precious time is limited even more for the youngsters. Six of the Buckeyes' 25 scholarship freshmen saw action in Ohio State's comfortable 38-25 victory. Only one made it on the stat sheet.

Last week, Jaxon Smith-Njigba introduced himself to the fan base with his spectacular touchdown grab. The Nittany Lions also noticed his athleticism and limited him to 1 catch for 6 yards. Smith-Njigba was on the field for 30 offensive snaps, but Justin Fields officially only targeted him once. JSN and Fields did connect on a 12-yard stick route late in the third quarter, but it was negated due to an illegal formation penalty.

Julian Fleming was parked on the sidelines for the majority of the game. His number was finally called to join the foray with 2:52 remaining in the fourth quarter. It was a run play on 2nd and 7 that resulted in a loss of 4 yards. Fleming was replaced and remained a spectator for the duration.

On the defensive side of the ball, Lathan Ransom was called upon at the 3:49 mark of the 4th quarter. His first snap of the game was Marcus Hooker's 31-yard interception return that put the game to bed. Ransom then stayed on for the final eight defensive snaps of the night. His textbook, solo tackle of KeAndre Lambert-Smith ended the game.

The other freshmen to see playing time were Paris Johnson Jr., Gee Scott Jr. and Cody Simon. You will find Johnson Jr. (No. 77) as an interior lineman on the FG/PAT unit and FG Block team. He was a protector on all seven of Ohio State's FG/PAT attempts and was called upon twice on FG block.

To find Scott Jr. and Simon look for them on the kickoff return and kickoff coverage teams. Scott Jr. wears No. 13 and is a blocker on the kickoff return unit. Simon dons No. 39 on the kickoff coverage unit. The linebacker from Jersey City, NJ, was a gunner for every kickoff against the Nittany Lions. Saturday, Simon will take on a familiar foe...Rutgers.

The NCAA gave all players a free year of eligibility this season, so Ohio State does not have to worry about preserving redshirts for its freshmen this year.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I like the call from Franklin to go for it on 4th down 3:30 into the game. And I don't mean because they didn't convert and my team got the ball there. I mean it was a gutsy (not necessarily smart) playcall by a coach who has heard all week that he can't beat Ohio State, and that was evident in Ohio State's first drive. Come out and figuratively punch the other team in the mouth to try to get some momentum early. The playcall was bad, though, but the execution was very smart by Clifford. He saw that Ohio State sniffed out the screen pass, so he scrambled and tried something. He saw he wasn't going to get the first down, so he threw it, knowing that the worst thing that happens is an incompletion. Who knows, maybe a completion or pass interference is called, or roughing the quarterback.

Anyway, it ended up being a momentum boost for Ohio State, but I think I can respect the decision to take a stupid chance. (But a screen pass? Meh.)
 
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The more I think about it, the more I like the call from Franklin to go for it on 4th down 3:30 into the game. And I don't mean because they didn't convert and my team got the ball there. I mean it was a gutsy (not necessarily smart) playcall by a coach who has heard all week that he can't beat Ohio State, and that was evident in Ohio State's first drive. Come out and figuratively punch the other team in the mouth to try to get some momentum early. The playcall was bad, though, but the execution was very smart by Clifford. He saw that Ohio State sniffed out the screen pass, so he scrambled and tried something. He saw he wasn't going to get the first down, so he threw it, knowing that the worst thing that happens is an incompletion. Who knows, maybe a completion or pass interference is called, or roughing the quarterback.

Anyway, it ended up being a momentum boost for Ohio State, but I think I can respect the decision to take a stupid chance. (But a screen pass? Meh.)
Yeah for anyone in the big ten they'll have to take those chances when they get them because of our offense to be honest. I think most will know they have to score and score big to keep up which will force teams to do things like go for 4th down and abandon the run.
 
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