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Game Thread Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Ohio State 34, Notre Dame 20 (final)

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Anyone who would still defend Coop is an idiot. Jax nailed it. Between his auspicious debut pimping hot tubs on television, to his request of the officials to concede the game against Southern Cal in 1990 in the 3rd quarter because of a storm front ... fuck him.

Cooper apologists are just mid-90s fan boys of the Eddie George teams who didn't have to suffer the most miserable shit from '88 - '92.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yeah, but they're the best team of all time...just go to the Michigan boards and they'll tell you so.
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Good point. Perhaps we Buckeye fans don't get it :roll1:?

See, TSUN and Notre Dame have something called tradition. I know what that means at Ohio State but I am beginning to sense that it means something else there. Anyway, when you have this tradition thing like they do, well you can have other teams kick the living daylights out of you and, well, you're still number 1.

Take the Notre Dame basketball team. They flat-out suck. But you see, that doesn't matter. They have this tradition thing in football and that can be used in basketball, so we have apologists on the major web sites talking about Notre Dame as potentially the best ten-loss team kinda thing.

Now take TSUN, a hundred years or so ago they apparently were awesome and racked up some great winning seasons against powerhouses like Racine, Toronto, and Windsor Club that continue today to strike fear into the hearts of true football fans everywhere. Those are big victories that remain fresh in a lot of people's minds. OK, Alzheimer's and the ageing of the Michigan population being what it is, I take your point, but stay with me here.

It's no big deal if they get their arses handed to them by Ohio State, they still got this tradition thing with glorious wins over Racine and the like in a glorious past. And THAT can really put some swagger into your walk. :rofl:
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Well Cindy Cooper must post on here because some anonymous Cooper lover gave me this beauty:
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Words cannot properly express the magnitude of the fuck I do not give about a ding. The part that disturbs me is there are still Kool Aid drinking Cooper lovers in our midst and they are obviously missing Hot Tub Johnny.

I didn't think there was anyone left naive enough to still back that dumb hick....guess I was wrong.
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You had it coming, Jax. IVoyd never signs his dings! He misses the Coop big time! :slappy:
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Uhh, try to keep up. I didn't say you have to schedule the top teams in the country to have a tough schedule. What I am saying, and what NOBODY can come to grips with, is that ADs DO NOT make up schedules with the SOLE PURPOSE of having a tough schedule. If that were the case, then my previously posted schedule would be the result.

Can you understand that? I've given up all hopes of you grasping what that MEANS at this point, I'm just trying to get you to understand the concept of ADs and scheduling.
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BN27. McLuhan said it best, "the media is the message."

Type more slowly, please, and you won't lose our new friend from Notre Dame. :biggrin:
 
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Now that we've won 3 of those butt ugly trophies, isn't it about time somebody designs something better looking?
I've seen better looking trophies on a pimp's car. :pimp:

How about something that looks sorta like Pam Anderson's breasts......painted gold!
 
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Taosman said:
Now that we've won 3 of those butt ugly trophies, isn't it about time somebody designs something better looking?
I've seen better looking trophies on a pimp's car. :pimp:

How about something that looks sorta like Pam Anderson's breasts......painted gold!
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I'll take one more of those Fiesta Bowl trophies--the 2007 one, which comes packaged with a nice-looking crystal football trophy.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
I'll take one more of those Fiesta Bowl trophies--the 2007 one, which comes packaged with a nice-looking crystal football trophy.
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Is there a bowl trophey for the BCS Championship next year? It can't be the Fiesta Bowl Trophey though, right? Cuz two other teams will play in that bowl, correct?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Well Cindy Cooper must post on here because some anonymous Cooper lover gave me this beauty:
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</TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p407504 width="50%">Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Oh...</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>01-25-2006 10:55 AM</TD><TD class=alt1 width="50%">sure, 91 wins in the 90s was a really dark time</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Words cannot properly express the magnitude of the fuck I do not give about a ding. The part that disturbs me is there are still Kool Aid drinking Cooper lovers in our midst and they are obviously missing Hot Tub Johnny.

I didn't think there was anyone left naive enough to still back that dumb hick....guess I was wrong.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaxbuck again.
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bravo!

5-18-1 in the last two games of the year.

vs.

8-2 in the last two games of the year.

i don't give a shit if Coop won 1000000000000 games in the '90's, if you lose the biggest game of the year with that kind of regularity, then YOU SUCK.
 
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SB Trib

February 03. 2006 6:59AM
<!--START Headline--> Why did Irish have problems against OSU?

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ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer

<!-- STORY BODY --> SOUTH BEND -- The sting didn't come from some columnists who suggested Charlie Weis was perhaps anointed a genius way too prematurely. Or that his brash vision of Notre Dame's return to the college football elite was more bluster than substance.

What bothered the Irish head football coach as he watched and re-watched Notre Dame's 34-20 loss to Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl was how different this team looked from the one that took USC to the game's final couple of seconds on Oct. 15 before falling, 34-31.

"As I watched the game, we were doing things we don't normally do," Weis said of the Fiesta Bowl matchup. "We dropped balls that we normally don't drop. You have to come back and say, 'What do you attribute that to?'

"Rather than attribute it just to the players messing up, which is the easy way out, I think the more important thing is to really go back and try to figure out not just what happened, but why it happened. I already got the 'what' down, but I don't have the 'why' yet."

<!--START Inline Ad--><!--END Inline Ad--> Weis thinks it might have something to do with how he structured ND's bowl preparations. Perhaps the 15 allotted workouts should have been more spread out? Perhaps two-a-days before heading to Tempe, Ariz., wasn't the best idea?

"I'm never big on excuses," Weis said. "First of all, you have to give credit (to Ohio State). They were a good football team and deserved to win the game. What I'm going to have to do is review the whole preparation time, the long lapse between Nov. 26 and Jan. 2. I really haven't had time to think this through yet ... how to get your guys best ready to go, with that huge time frame involved."

Weis apparently has had time to research the date of next year's national title game, though. He knows it is scheduled for Jan. 8 at the new Cardinal Stadium in Glendale, Ariz.
 
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