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Top Ten RBs for next year....

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BuckeyeKid789 said:
Name on back on that list that's clearly better than Pittman besides Peterson.
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I love pittman, but he does not belong anywhere near #2 heading into the season. I think he could have scored more, but the fact is that Pittman rarely got into the endzone, and not once against the toughest opposing defenses (PSU & UT). Until he does that, there is no argument to place him above those that actually achieved.

With time, I think Pittman could rise as high as #4/5 on this list, and he is very underrated nationally. However, I think he still has much more to prove, despite his undeniable ability.

Above Pitt
1. Peterson - needs no explanation
2. Sutton - surrounded by "third-tier" talent, he amassed 1400 yds 6 ypc and 16 tds. OSU did not slow him down either (6.6 ypc).
3. Irons - Irons: 1293 yds 5.1 ypc 13 tds (better than pittman).
4. Slaton - 5.5 ypc 17 tds, unstoppable against a tough UGA d, as well as VT (tho no TDs).

Debatable
5. Bush - so powerful yet with enough speed to hurt the defense. 5.6 ypc and 23 tds is impressive regardless of competition (VT did not slow down his average at all).
6. Hart - Pittman has not yet matched Hart's freshman season imo. If Hart returns to 04 form, it will be a great battle between these two for bragging rights in the big ten.
7. Wolfe - Undersized, but undeniable talent. Michigan's #41 rush D was absolutely destroyed by this kid... he will not be shut down in Ohio Stadium (we will still win by 14+).
8. Russell - he'd be in the mix... but isn't he going pro due to grades?
9. Lynch - ridiculous numbers, again competition level questions.
10. Charles - (I'm getting lazy, go ask xray :p)


Below
11. Walker
12. Booker

as for your booker bashing, it's kinda tough to rack up huge yardage when you only get the ball just over 100 times... running behind arguably the worst OL at any "BCS superpower" with arguably the worst OC calling the plays. I'm not arguing he belongs ahead of pittman, but put it in its proper context.
 
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jwinslow said:
as for your booker bashing, it's kinda tough to rack up huge yardage when you only get the ball just over 100 times... running behind arguably the worst OL at any "BCS superpower" with arguably the worst OC calling the plays. I'm not arguing he belongs ahead of pittman, but put it in its proper context.
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The O-line excuse works but not getting the ball 100 times. If he was good enough he would have gotten more carries.
 
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789, booker is not in my top-10, therefore he should not be the focus of the debate (tho I'll answer your post below). IMO, Pittman is not the best back in the big ten (Sutton is), and it's debatable vs Hart.

Pittman is not the #2 back, and DEFINITELY is not beyond all of the other backs not named Peterson, with his struggles with finding the endzone.
BuckeyeKid789 said:
True, but Pitt had a 5.5 ypc avg. which is better than Irons.
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so a +.4 edge in average makes up for -6 tds? Pittman didn't know what the end zone looked like until the easier portion of our schedule. Irons scored in every single SEC game except arkansas.
BuckeyeKid789 said:
The O-line excuse works but not getting the ball 100 times. If he was good enough he would have gotten more carries.
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The OL can't block and sustain drives, and he's splitting carries with a solid senior RB. Very few backs would pick up 4.6 ypc in that horrendous offense.
BuckWrestler141 said:
JWins, I'd move Walker into debatable. I think I just prefer his style a little bit, but Pittman fits in very well with Buckeye Football, so I wouldn't trade the two.
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I see where you're coming from... Pittman vs Walker at ND might be debatable. I do not think Walker could run out of the I.
 
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I think you're putting too much emphasis on getting into the endzone. It's not all his fault that he only got 7 td's. Look at the SDSU and Penn St. games. The entire offense wasn't driving the ball. Plus I've stated that he didn't always get the ball inside the 10 yard line. Troy Smith and Brandon Schnittker(that's how you spell it, right?) were taking most of the carries down there.
 
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jwinslow said:
Pittman is not the #2 back, and DEFINITELY is not beyond all of the other backs not named Peterson, with his struggles with finding the endzone.
so a +.4 edge in average makes up for -6 tds? Pittman didn't know what the end zone looked like until the easier portion of our schedule. Irons scored in every single SEC game except arkansas.
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Now you're starting sound like xrayrandy, going purely on stats. While Pittman didn't score his first TD until late in the season, I wouldn't say it was all his fault, and wouldn't say it was the "easier" part of the schedule...rushing TDs will always be tough to come by at Michigan, and scoring a long game-sealing TD against ND is nothing to sneeze at, either. The only back that is clearly better than Pittman is Peterson. Pittman stacks up in toughness, reliability, and performance as well as any other RB. Now, is he the #2 RB in the country? Maybe not. Is he out of the top 10? No way.
 
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first of all, I think Pittman is a stud, and could breakout big time after a strong 05 season. I just do not think he has earned the status of being #2 in the nation yet.
MililaniBuckeye said:
Now you're starting sound like xrayrandy, going purely on stats.
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am I? Pittman not scoring TDs was no small matter, and we lost two pivotal games during that stretch. I do not think it was his fault (as much as the JT playcalling and TS audibles), but it was definitely a weakness.
While Pittman didn't score his first TD until late in the season, I wouldn't say it was all his fault
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Very true, we did not ride Pittman hard enough, and called WAY too many QB draws which were usually telegraphed by troy.
, and wouldn't say it was the "easier" part of the schedule...rushing TDs will always be tough to come by at Michigan, and scoring a long game-sealing TD against ND is nothing to sneeze at, either.
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I didn't say it was a cakewalk, but it definitely was the easier portion of the schedule. He had two huge TDs in those games which showed his ability, no doubt about that.
The only back that is clearly better than Pittman is Peterson. Pittman stacks up in toughness, reliability, and performance as well as any other RB.
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Really? I remember a number of times where Pittman wore down as games went on. He will probably be a year stronger and more durable, and he is hardly fragile. But OSU could not have fed him the ball 25-30 times a game weekly imo.
Now, is he the #2 RB in the country? Maybe not. Is he out of the top 10? No way.
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who are you arguing with? I have him in my top-10, I just think it is very debatable where he is from #5-10.
 
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