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I think you're right, Nigel. I was not enthusiastic because of the disciplinary problems and off-field issues at Florida combined with his unclear medical issues, resignation, return, and resignation. The nature of his intracranial cyst was not really clear at that time, at least to me. As he recovered during his year with ESPiN, it became clear that he was a very different person to the way he was betrayed and that his buyout clause mentioning Ohio State was more than words. I think opinion here changed very quickly then, at least as I remember it.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
I was (and still am - even moreso now) ok with the players he recruited at Florida, if for no other reason than it changed the type of player he recruited when he got here. He was no longer willing to take as many (or any) questionable-character guys. When Meyer was at Florida, his mentality was to win at all costs and he got some guys who were straight up thugs. NFL talent-thugs, but thugs nonetheless. As his time at UF came to a close, and for a few years after, well, we all know the story. It made the school look bad & it made him look bad. I think Urban reflected upon this when he started here and made a change in his approach to recruiting. tOSU football program is in a better place because of it, and I for one, am grateful to him.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I agree with all of that. Clearly, he learned something during his time at Florida and fundamentally changed how he recruited and how he dealt with off-field incidents. Anyone who can look at the Robie and Hyde cases, and say he was running the same kind of program that he ran at Florida can fuck all the way off.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
Agree. That’s why I give pause to some of the losses..he liked not having a 3 am phone call.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
A while back, Zach Smith had Philly Brown on his podcast as guest. Since Philly was there during the transition of Tress-Fickell-Urban, Zach asked what he thought of Urban and his staff coming in. Philly kind of chuckled and said rather that he hated all of them. He went on to explain that under Urban's regime, everyone was terrified to make any mistakes; that Urban was so intense that it scared guys into performing better. Looking back, I'm pretty sure this applied both on the field as well as off of it.
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Nigel Tufnel
Choking on vomit
Clown show was Meyer’s description of the WRs. I’ll bet none of those guys took that well. It might have eventually scared them into performing better, but I’ll bet initially it scared them in a manner that made the clown show worse.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
I think that I've seen Jen Vrabel make mention to it recently. I'll see if I can dig that out.
Edit: Link https://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/mike-vrabel-headbutted-ohio-state-player/164975
Edit 2: Confirmation pic in the link. Dude gone done busted himself up.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
SKULL SESSION: BUCKEYES EXCEL AT HIRING COORDINATORS, LARRY JOHNSON IS AN INTERIOR LINE GURU TOO, AND TREVEYON HENDERSON RESPONDS TO MESSAGE BOARD RUMORS
COORDINATORS, TOO. It's not a secret that Ohio State hasn't always had exactly the same success rate with hiring coordinators as it has head coaches – hello, Touchdown Tim Beck! – but that doesn't mean there hasn't been some good, too.
In the past decade, the Buckeyes have made three coordinator hires that ESPN rates among the top-10 hires in all of college football during that span – and no other team has more than one.
8. Tom Herman, Ohio State offensive coordinator
Hired: Dec. 9, 2011
Term: 2012-14
What he inherited: Ohio State had a talented young quarterback, Braxton Miller, but had finished 107th in yards and 81st in scoring during the 2011 season. The Buckeyes eclipsed 27 points just five times that season.
What happened next: Urban Meyer came to Columbus with exceptional offensive credentials, but he deserves credit for hiring a coordinator he had never worked with in Herman, from Iowa State. Herman immediately began improving the offense, starting with Miller, who won 2012 Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year honors and set the team's single-season total offense record (3,310 yards). Ohio State's offense in 2013 set 12 single-season school records, including 4,321 rushing yards, also a Big Ten record. Herman did his best work in 2014, as Ohio State overcame a preseason injury to Miller and a late-season injury to standout freshman quarterback J.T. Barrett to ultimately win the national title game with third-stringer Cardale Jones. The Buckeyes ranked fifth nationally in scoring (44.8 PPG), and Herman won the Broyles Award.
Just like the head coaches list from yesterday, Ohio State is already featured on this list more than anyone else, and it probably should have been even more. But ESPN decided against honoring the guys who turned the worst defense in program history into the best defense in the country in one season with the same players.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...son-is-an-interior-line-guru-too-and-treveyon
It's interesting how a guy can go from "fantastic QB coach and OC, I hope he becomes Ohio State's HC when Urban retires" to "Titty Bar Tom". Well, that's how it works in college football coaching......
COORDINATORS, TOO. It's not a secret that Ohio State hasn't always had exactly the same success rate with hiring coordinators as it has head coaches – hello, Touchdown Tim Beck! – but that doesn't mean there hasn't been some good, too.
In the past decade, the Buckeyes have made three coordinator hires that ESPN rates among the top-10 hires in all of college football during that span – and no other team has more than one.
8. Tom Herman, Ohio State offensive coordinator
Hired: Dec. 9, 2011
Term: 2012-14
What he inherited: Ohio State had a talented young quarterback, Braxton Miller, but had finished 107th in yards and 81st in scoring during the 2011 season. The Buckeyes eclipsed 27 points just five times that season.
What happened next: Urban Meyer came to Columbus with exceptional offensive credentials, but he deserves credit for hiring a coordinator he had never worked with in Herman, from Iowa State. Herman immediately began improving the offense, starting with Miller, who won 2012 Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year honors and set the team's single-season total offense record (3,310 yards). Ohio State's offense in 2013 set 12 single-season school records, including 4,321 rushing yards, also a Big Ten record. Herman did his best work in 2014, as Ohio State overcame a preseason injury to Miller and a late-season injury to standout freshman quarterback J.T. Barrett to ultimately win the national title game with third-stringer Cardale Jones. The Buckeyes ranked fifth nationally in scoring (44.8 PPG), and Herman won the Broyles Award.
Just like the head coaches list from yesterday, Ohio State is already featured on this list more than anyone else, and it probably should have been even more. But ESPN decided against honoring the guys who turned the worst defense in program history into the best defense in the country in one season with the same players.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...son-is-an-interior-line-guru-too-and-treveyon
It's interesting how a guy can go from "fantastic QB coach and OC, I hope he becomes Ohio State's HC when Urban retires" to "Titty Bar Tom". Well, that's how it works in college football coaching......
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