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Tired of Choklahoma

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Oklahoma and scUM (among others, including us) should be pre-season Top 10 every year. There's no reason why not: lets take this year, for example. Utah supposedly has a great team (for them). Regardless, if its a great Utah team and a bad scUM team, the bad scUM team is still way better than they are. They'd probably pound on em if they played, too.

Mili: "That had to hurt..."

I actually had a couple kids nine months after my cock blew out. It doesn't hurt that bad. Feels real good, in fact.
 
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Just to add an obvious point to the reputation discussion: if we win one or two more NCs in the next few years, it will also likely mean we've beat scUM. Despite JT's 2-1 record, most of America grew up watching scUM beat tOSU regularly. We need a run of 4 or 5 straight to undo that damage to our football reputation. So NCs will do wonders for our reputation and AP pre-season rankings, but a big part of that will be because it means we beat TSUN.
 
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Oklahoma and scUM (among others, including us) should be pre-season Top 10 every year. There's no reason why not: lets take this year, for example. Utah supposedly has a great team (for them). Regardless, if its a great Utah team and a bad scUM team, the bad scUM team is still way better than they are. They'd probably pound on em if they played, too.
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this might be more ridiculous than any of your yankee rants. what about notre dame? should they always be ranked preseason? penn state? florida? USC?
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Oklahoma and scUM (among others, including us) should be pre-season Top 10 every year. There's no reason why not: lets take this year, for example. Utah supposedly has a great team (for them). Regardless, if its a great Utah team and a bad scUM team, the bad scUM team is still way better than they are. They'd probably pound on em if they played, too.
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I agree that they should be ranked in the top 10 if they finished 11-2 or 10-2 like they have the last 3 years, but I don't see how they should be ranked #1 or #2 every year when they haven't done anything special since 2000. It seems that the media wants to give them the championship before the season even starts (trev and mark). The only reason I can see for this is that they have a "pretty" offense. Teams like Choklahoma, FSU (in late 90's), Miami, USC, and even scUM to an extent have those gimmicky, flashy offensive schemes that the media loves. If you have a gimmicky pass happy offense and you put up 77 on your conference bitch then you are #1 according the media. I guess OSU had better put up 77 on IU this year, because after all that is what makes a great team, at least according to the media.

BuckeyeSoldier said:
Thats actuallly what inspired the blog I wrote... (the one mandel stole from me[i will exact my revenge]) its retarded. I am hoping with mike in arizona the sooners oh so overrated defense will crash and burn.
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If you have a link to that blog i would love to read it.
 
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I submitted it for review or whatever, but for some reason the table i built showing exactly how bad the ap is at predicting these things (think two teams in the last 6 years have finished where the ap put them to start) crashed into a jumbled mess so i did it again but used the space bar to fix my chart instead of copying and pasting it from the excel worksheet i used to make it and it crashed again so i gave up until one of the mods or tech guys can figure out how to fix it.
 
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BuckeyeNation27: "this might be more ridiculous than any of your yankee rants. what about notre dame? should they always be ranked preseason? penn state? florida? USC?"

Did I mention Notre Dame? Or those other schools? But, to answer your question, until they prove that they don't deserve that ranking with several consecutive mediocre seasons, then yes. They do too. You're telling me that the worst of Ron Zook's Florida teams couldn't beat a great Utah team? Notre Dame and Penn State are in bad patches, so at this moment, they don't deserve a pre-season Top 10, but out of 20 seasons, on average, 15 of them a program of that caliber deserves the Top 10.

And let the Yankee thing go. I'm trying to be nice, but obviuously you're a jealous troll with an obsession with me and the Yankees. Let it go. For the last time, this is my final warning.

Sdgobucks: " don't see how they should be ranked #1 or #2 every year when they haven't done anything special since 2000. It seems that the media wants to give them the championship before the season even starts"

I don't think a pre-season # 1 is "giving" anyone a championship. There's a long way to go before that. And, to be honest, if I was voting, I would put them in my pre-season Top 3 each year since 2000, too. They have great talent, great tradition, and one of the best coaches in the Nation. At the begining of the season ON PAPER, they've had one of the best three teams. It doesn't always play out that way, but I have no problem with the ranking.

"If you have a gimmicky pass happy offense and you put up 77 on your conference bitch then you are #1 according the media."

No question about it. But ask yourself this: most people in the media watch 1 or 2 games per season for each National power. Those games are usually the big rivalries like OSU-scUM, Oklahoma-Texas, Florida-FSU, etc. Not only does a Mike Lupica pick up the box score and read, "Oklahoma 77, Conference Bitch 0" in the games he doesn't see, but in the one game that he does see, Bob Stoops and OU lather rival Texas (a team loaded with talent) in 60-spot blowouts. Stoops has benefitted from the fact that all media eyes are on him while he's embarassing his rival in the Red River Shootout. If I only watched OU twice a year, I'd be pretty damn impressed if that was one of the two games I saw. The same factor worked against us when the only OSU game the media watched was our annual John Cooper-scUM flame-outs of the 90's.
 
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Did I mention Notre Dame? Or those other schools? But, to answer your question, until they prove that they don't deserve that ranking with several consecutive mediocre seasons, then yes. They do too. You're telling me that the worst of Ron Zook's Florida teams couldn't beat a great Utah team? Notre Dame and Penn State are in bad patches, so at this moment, they don't deserve a pre-season Top 10, but out of 20 seasons, on average, 15 of them a program of that caliber deserves the Top 10.
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so who are these magic schools who should automatically get a top 10 spot without even evaluating their performance? and how can you justify this? if a team is ranked top 10 for no good reason and barely gets by a cake schedule...do they deserve to be #1 or #2 (which is where they would be by the end of the season). maybe they lose the first game and everybody proclaims the sky is falling to make up for their huge mistake of ranking them preseason top10....then they become world beaters but cant make it back into the top 2. yeah that seams about fair.

And let the Yankee thing go. I'm trying to be nice, but obviuously you're a jealous troll with an obsession with me and the Yankees. Let it go. For the last time, this is my final warning.
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oh jesus christ. what the hell are you gonna do? its not my fault you cant take a little humor. but what the hell.

THE YANKEES SUCK.
 
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Nation: "so who are these magic schools who should automatically get a top 10 spot without even evaluating their performance?"

Gee, what schools could they be? Maybe one called Ohio State (ever heard of them?), Florida State, Miami, Oklahoma, Texas, USC, scUM, Florida, Tennessee, and (traditionally) Notre Dame, Penn State, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.

Have those schools ever done anything previously to deserve a Top 10 ranking? Or should we rank McNeese St. above them because some moron named BuckeyeNation (who's too stupid to come up with a creative name, and too pathetic to do anything else besides obsess about other Internet board posters) says that we shouldn't assume that schools like Ohio State will do good this year?

Remember, being # 10 in the Nation is not a big deal. Even saying a bad Texas team is # 10 is not that big a stretch.

"if a team is ranked top 10 for no good reason and barely gets by a cake schedule...do they deserve to be #1 or #2 (which is where they would be by the end of the season)."

Hey dummy, all of those big schools I mentioned annually (as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow) play AT LEAST two games that can knock them off from an undefeated season. scUM plays Ohio State, Oklahoma plays Texas, K-State, Nebraska, and the Big XII Title game, Florida plays Florida State, etc. If any of the traditional powers goes unbeaten, THEY DESERVE THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME! because chances are, they've earned it and beaten other big time programs. By your same rationale, the schools that can squeak by to that # 1 or # 2 spot is a team like WVU, who, by my rationale, wouldn't sniff a preseason Top 10. So, like always, your argument runs around in circles with no point like a dog chasing its tail (or like you would do if I taped a Derek Jeter picture to your ass).

"then they become world beaters but cant make it back into the top 2. yeah that seams about fair."

How many 1-loss teams aren't in the Top 5 at the end of the season? How many? Last season, the 2 loss started being ranked at # 3 at the end of the season. Open your eyes, and do some research before you write pointless drivel just because you're on the Sloop Doctor's nuts.
 
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There should't be polls till week 5 or 6. Who cares if your ranked 5,6,7,8,9 and so on. What do you get for being ranked 5th in the country...not a damn thing. All I care about is being ranked #1 at the end of the season. I wish we were ranked even higher than we are. Underdog is not a bad role to play.

I agree with Buckeyenation27 that JUST BECAUSE you are OSU, Texas, or Meshitagain shouldn't guarantee you anything.

Teams are gonna get knocked off every week. We have to focus on our games and not polls. If we go undefeated we will be in the Orange Bowl. This week Miami & FlSt and Georgia & S. Car will shuffle the top ten.

I used to watch the polls day in and day out but I have realized one thing...win every game and you will play for a national title...lose a game and you are at the mercy of pollsters...period!!!!!!!
 
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Nation: "wow sloop. you need medication and help. calm the fuck down. this is my last warning "

What can you do to me? Shoot me with your plastic phazer and Spock ears? How is the weather down there in your parents' basement, btw?
 
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