Tim Beck (HC Coastal Carolina)

[jebussmurf]

Re: Tim Beck, Ohio State’s new co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, has signed a preliminary deal with the university that will earn him at least $525,000 a year until April 2017, according to his contract obtained by Eleven Warriors on Friday afternoon.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...rn-at-least-525000-signs-preliminary-contract

Just sayin': It looks like Beck is under contract through next season. I'm sure eating the $525K next year would be not be that big of deal Ohio State; however, I wonder if Meyer made any personal promises/commitments to beck (i.e. we'll definitely keep you for the 2 years) when he was hired, etc.

I think Urban asks his coordinators to make a 2 year commitment to the program, so if they do well, they won't leave after one year (I think that would apply to Chris Ash). Not sure how he handles if things don't go well. For Withers, the defense wasn't great when he got here so it made sense to give him another year to try to right to ship. It's a harder sell with Beck...

Regarding Beck's contract, $525k is a minor rounding error for OSU.

 

[Wham]

I agree with everything you said besides Beck being victimized... he had the most loaded offense perhaps EVER returning. Yet the first time we play someone who can stand up to us we go for 130 yards which I'm not sure when the last time we did that. The expression has been rampant but "Ferrari has been crashed" here... Nebraska fans saw this and now WE see this. He needs to go now.

I also never liked how Beck once he assumed play calling against Indiana or perhaps Maryland made it clear that he wasn't responsible for the duds that were layer in the non conference. I found it very selfish and not a team move whatsoever. You combine that with Joe Burrows having issues with him when they were recruiting him to Nebraska and maybe no one likes this guy?

As for my comments saying I only see one probable loss next year. We have a beast schedule which includes Nebraska, Wisconsin and Northwestern. Not to mention a damn solid non conference with Oklahoma and Tulsa/Bowling Green (both will give us trouble defensively). What I meant was Oklahoma probably is a loss but we have great odds to win In all other games.

Wisconsin won't have a QB or recievers and lose a defense

Nebraska may be solid but it's at home (probably at night too)

Northwestern loses a [Mark May] ton and it's home

PSU has their running back but lose a ton up front on defense and lose Hackensack

Scum lose backers and some lineman. Oh and they may have Shane Morris as QB

Indiana- lose QB and RB and up front on defense

MSU lose a [Mark May] load up front, both WRs and Connor Cook.

Rutgers and Maryland - hahahahaha ok...

We lose a ton as well but to me it looks like everyone will too. Nebraska is the only team that looks like may be a surprise due to returning players. I trust our abilities to replenish and continue our dominance of the B1G just not Oklahoma

I am not sure meter is not as responsible as anyone for the very poor and very conservative play calling in the msu game. That was my point and it was not all Beck. The fact that their protection collapsed at Illinois must have limited their options. I do agree though overall we are going down a very steep hill.

 

[matcar]

So just curious what do you think is going to happen next year? Beck gets the Manny Diaz treatment... gets paid but isn't on the football staff?


Urban waiting to mess around on Defense is due to him not being involved in that side. This is his baby, this is the offense. The only way I see Beck back is if Smith leaves and Urban slides Beck to the WRs (not that he's had any success with those).

I expect Beck will be back. In what capacities, I don't know but it would be out of the ordinary for Meyer to cut him loose after one season.

 

[Systems_id]

Not after one season. I think you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment, that's all.

I agree but I just don't know why you would bother waiting. Wrecking arguably the most loaded offense Ohio State has ever had, that JUST won a NC the year before and set records doing it mind you, should be definitive proof that you're not cut out to be a big time OC.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

I expect Beck will be back. In what capacities, I don't know but it would be out of the ordinary for Meyer to cut him loose after one season.

Extraordinary circumstances.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

I agree but I just don't know why you would bother waiting. Wrecking arguably the most loaded offense Ohio State has ever had, that JUST won a NC the year before and set records doing it mind you, should be definitive proof that you're not cut out to be a big time OC.

I agree that everything was set up for an Ohio State run to the championship. However, looking at the top 4, only Alabama was a team that was semi-expected to get to the playoffs. It seems like teams such as Clemson, Iowa, or last years OSU team make these runs because the pressure is off at the beginning. That said, the dick dancing with QBs and play callers is a very viable excuse for our woes. Because of that I think Beck gets another year. Make no mistake about it, next year better be a year that JT looks like Troy Smith, otherwise Beck will be needing to start shopping his resume around.

 

[starBUCKS]

Re: Tim Beck, Ohio State’s new co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, has signed a preliminary deal with the university that will earn him at least $525,000 a year until April 2017, according to his contract obtained by Eleven Warriors on Friday afternoon.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...rn-at-least-525000-signs-preliminary-contract

Just sayin': It looks like Beck is under contract through next season. I'm sure eating the $525K next year would be not be that big of deal Ohio State; however, I wonder if Meyer made any personal promises/commitments to beck (i.e. we'll definitely keep you for the 2 years) when he was hired, etc.

I would think Beck would have walked over broken glass for the job. No need to promise a guy anything, that was unemployed at the time, and in our opinion, under qualified.

 

[matcar]

I agree but I just don't know why you would bother waiting. Wrecking arguably the most loaded offense Ohio State has ever had, that JUST won a NC the year before and set records doing it mind you, should be definitive proof that you're not cut out to be a big time OC.

I get that everyone wants to blame one guy, but Meyer has been pretty open that it's on him too. I doubt Meyer thinks this is all Beck's fault in spite of fan reaction. There were problems all over the place from oline woes, inability to choose a QB, attempting to change offensive philosophy at least once but maybe twice this season. There is plenty of blame to go around and Meyer owns a lot of it.

 

[TooTall]

I get that everyone wants to blame one guy, but Meyer has been pretty open that it's on him too. I doubt Meyer thinks this is all Beck's fault in spite of fan reaction. There were problems all over the place from oline woes, inability to choose a QB, attempting to change offensive philosophy at least once but maybe twice this season. There is plenty of blame to go around and Meyer owns a lot of it.

As the QB coach, that's on Beck. Meyer will take blame, because that's what a great head coach does. But Beck isn't getting it done. With this amount of talent, he should have at least had an identity to this offense, and they simply don't have one.

 

[kujirakira]

I get that everyone wants to blame one guy, but Meyer has been pretty open that it's on him too. I doubt Meyer thinks this is all Beck's fault in spite of fan reaction. There were problems all over the place from oline woes, inability to choose a QB, attempting to change offensive philosophy at least once but maybe twice this season. There is plenty of blame to go around and Meyer owns a lot of it.

Agree with all that... there was also inconsistency with who exactly is playcalling and being OC as well.
That said, the interplay with Beck and Warinner would appear to be the most glaring issue. Warinner has proven his worth to this team elsewhere, giving him a bit of a free pass ... though it appears neither is cut out to be a big time OC right now. Beck hasn't even been able to demonstrate competency as a position coach... which puts him in hot waters.

 

[jebussmurf]

As the QB coach, that's on Beck. Meyer will take blame, because that's what a great head coach does. But Beck isn't getting it done. With this amount of talent, he should have at least had an identity to this offense, and they simply don't have one.

That's not true. IRCC, Meyer said he will be picking the QB because he recognized it wasn't fair to beck, the new guy, to make that decision. He mentioned it in an interview before the season.

 

[TooTall]

That's not true. IRCC, Meyer said he will be picking the QB because he recognized it wasn't fair to beck, the new guy, to make that decision. He mentioned it in an interview before the season.

Not necessarily selecting them, but having them prepared for games is on him. Going back to what he did at Nebraska, his tendencies on offense have not changed much at all. He practically ran Taylor Martinez to death, and not much changed the next year with Armstrong..

What I'm getting at, is he's never really progressed a QB's arm. He's obsessed over their running ability, though. While Meyer likes a mobile QB, I'm sure he likes balance, too.

 

[X Buckeyes07 X]

I agree that there are some viable excuses outside of Beck for why the offense hasn't performed, and could potentially see some leeway were it not for one thing: He's clearly lost the players, and that probably can't be remedied at this juncture.

 

[RB07OSU]

Not necessarily selecting them, but having them prepared for games is on him. Going back to what he did at Nebraska, his tendencies on offense have not changed much at all. He practically ran Taylor Martinez to to death, and not much changed the next year with Armstrong..

What I'm getting at, is he's never really progressed a QB's arm. He's obsessed over their running ability, though. While Meyer likes a mobile QB, I'm sure he likes balance, too.

I have been thinking the same here. It's like he thinks we have one athlete on the entire playground at QB and it was no different when he coached at Nebraska. Beck is not solely to blame but I am not going to pretend that he isn't a big part of the problem.

 

[TooTall]

I have been thinking the same here. It's like he thinks we have one athlete on the entire playground at QB and it was no different when he coached at Nebraska. Beck is not solely to blame but I am not going to pretend that he isn't a big part of the problem.

The defense grew stronger together, while the offense began to fall apart. I don't there is any coincidence that it happened while completely neutralizing Ohio State's Heisman candidate by refusing to get the ball to him.