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Tiger or Roger?

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Tiger or Roger?

  • Tiger Woods

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • Roger Federer

    Votes: 14 63.6%
  • Total voters
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I'll take ROGER.
Two reasons.
1.) The records he is breaking, or coming near to breaking.
2.) He rarely ever must come behind, but does when he must. His margin of victory is greater in comparison.
 
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bigballin2987;731673; said:
I'll take ROGER.
Two reasons.
1.) The records he is breaking, or coming near to breaking.
2.) He rarely ever must come behind, but does when he must. His margin of victory is greater in comparison.
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Very hard to disagree with you. But I have one main reason I picked tiger.

He plays against the whole field at once, not one at a time like federer. Are you telling me that not one golfer in the PGA can beat Tiger in 7 straight events? That boggles my mind.

Again, tough call, but I lean to Tiger right now

Sorry Peach, I must have missed the other thread!
 
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TGfan06;731675; said:
Very hard to disagree with you. But I have one main reason I picked tiger.

He plays against the whole field at once, not one at a time like federer. Are you telling me that not one golfer in the PGA can beat Tiger in 7 straight events? That boggles my mind.

Again, tough call, but I lean to Tiger right now

Sorry Peach, I must have missed the other thread!
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Very true. Altough I think it is a great thread to debate, I doubt you will find anyone who believes this question is truely answerable. Although, one main thing that Roger has over Tiger is that he is in a more athletic sport. It combines most of what golf pertains, in addition to the off the court work that tennis includes. But, one of the main reasons Tiger is so dominant is because of his work off the course. As you can see, I am contradicting myself. So basically, it all depends on who you believe is more dominant. No facts will prove this one. Sorry for the rambling contradiction you just had to read.
 
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TGfan06;731675; said:
Very hard to disagree with you. But I have one main reason I picked tiger.

He plays against the whole field at once, not one at a time like federer. Are you telling me that not one golfer in the PGA can beat Tiger in 7 straight events? That boggles my mind.

Again, tough call, but I lean to Tiger right now

Sorry Peach, I must have missed the other thread!
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I disagree somewhat with the idea that Tiger (or any golfer) plays "the whole field at once". I'd say that more accurately, Tiger is playing against himself, the course, and par. When he steps to the tee, I doubt he's thinking about besting the entire field - he's thinking about playing that hole and getting under par. I would argue that Tiger is the best because he is the best at playing against those things.

Besides, Tiger has played some match play, and he has been relatively underwhelming in that scenario. Tennis of course all match play, and Federer dominates. I think one could argue that in a round about way, Federer has "played the entire field" over the course of his reign.

I would vote for Federer in this case because in his sport, there are specialists in hard court, clay court and grass court play, and he has shown that he excels on all surfaces and can hold off the "specialists". In golf, of course there are different players with different strengths, and certain courses and layouts play to those strengths in Woods' opponents, but I don't think the fundamental game of golf changes as much from course to course as it does from surface to surface in tennis.
 
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I love Tiger so its difficult to say, but I'll take Federer as well. I loved Pete Sampras as well, but I believe Roger would consistently beat him. I don't think it is fair to Tiger to say since his match-play record is underwhelming Roger is better in his sport. PGA Golf Tournaments are 4 round competitions. Match-Play tournaments are difficult to gage b/c anyone can win on a given day. Tiger can even play several under in a match-play tournament and lose to a guy who fires a 66. Over 4 rounds, Tiger makes the field surrender. I believe Roger is in a more athletic sport, as someone else noted, and he's just a better athlete than a majority of these guys. The thing I like most about Roger is his complete game. He gets around the court like Michael Chang with a serve like Sampras. He's phenomenal at the net as well. He's the first tennis male tennis player in a long time outside of Sampras and Agassi that is fun to watch.
 
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billmac91;731684; said:
I love Tiger so its difficult to say, but I'll take Federer as well. I loved Pete Sampras as well, but I believe Roger would consistently beat him. I don't think it is fair to Tiger to say since his match-play record is underwhelming Roger is better in his sport. PGA Golf Tournaments are 4 round competitions. Match-Play tournaments are difficult to gage b/c anyone can win on a given day. Tiger can even play several under in a match-play tournament and lose to a guy who fires a 66. Over 4 rounds, Tiger makes the field surrender. I believe Roger is in a more athletic sport, as someone else noted, and he's just a better athlete than a majority of these guys. The thing I like most about Roger is his complete game. He gets around the court like Michael Chang with a serve like Sampras. He's phenomenal at the net as well. He's the first tennis male tennis player in a long time outside of Sampras and Agassi that is fun to watch.
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I don't think the match play comparison is *completely* fair either. I was just trying to illustrate that it's also not necessarily fair to say that Tiger is better because he can dominate each member of a field simultaneously, when his record shows that he has trouble dominating singular opponents. Tiger Woods dominates golf courses, not opponents. He dominates the field collectively by making them think they're playing against him rather than against the course.
 
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DDN

Tiger Extends His PGA Tour Streak to 7

By DOUG FERGUSON
AP Golf Writer
SAN DIEGO ? Tiger Woods resumed his improbable pursuit of Byron Nelson with a result that was all too predictable. Woods caught up to the pack with an eagle, buried the hopes of his final challenger with a birdie and closed with a 6-under 66 on Sunday to win the Buick Invitational for his seventh consecutive PGA Tour victory, the second-longest streak in history.
 
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ABJ

Federer wins 10th Grand Slam title

JOHN PYE

Associated Press

MELBOURNE, Australia - Roger Federer held back the tears this time. He didn't hold back much else at the Australian Open. Federer underlined his 10th Grand Slam singles title by winning 21 straight sets, saving a set point in Sunday's final before finishing off Fernando Gonzalez 7-6 (2), 6-4, 6-4.
The last man to go through a major without dropping a set was Bjorn Borg at the 1980 French Open. The only other man to win the Australian Open without dropping a set was Ken Rosewall in 1971, although he had to play only five matches.
 
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ABJ

Tiger, Federer dominate in unheard of ways

EDDIE PELLS

Associated Press

They crisscross the globe, dominating on almost every continent, one whacking a small, white ball better than anyone in the world, the other wailing away on a fuzzy green one with equal aplomb. Tiger Woods and Roger Federer are making history in their respective sports, owning golf and tennis the way very few ever have. Over the weekend, they wrote new chapters in their march toward sports history.

Continued...
 
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Dispatch

Tiger resumes streak with eye on Augusta
Woods inches closer to Nelson?s record
Monday, January 29, 2007
Doug Ferguson
ASSOCIATED PRESS
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DENNIS POROY ASSOCIATED PRESS Tiger Woods is pumped after watching his successful eagle putt on the ninth hole.
SAN DIEGO ? Tiger Woods is more interested in a fifth green jacket at the Masters than 11 straight victories on the PGA Tour.
At this rate, he might get both.
 
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Federer has an absolutely amazing winning percentage (something like 93% last year), but he has not won all 4 grand slams yet. He hasn't won the French Open, and in my mind, that means he's still behind Tiger.

Within the next year or two though, I really think we can start the talk of Federer as the greatest tennis player ever.
 
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This year's French Open will definatively determine this question. Roger would appear to be more dominant than Tiger outside of the fact that he hasn't done it all in his sport - Tiger has. Under any conditions, whether it's the British Open or the US Open, Tiger has won (and dominated). Federrer has yet to prove that at this point.

That said, I voted for Roger right now because I believe its his year to take down Nadal.
 
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milkman21;731771; said:
Federer has an absolutely amazing winning percentage (something like 93% last year), but he has not won all 4 grand slams yet. He hasn't won the French Open, and in my mind, that means he's still behind Tiger.

Within the next year or two though, I really think we can start the talk of Federer as the greatest tennis player ever.
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It will definitely be debatable but there are a couple greats that it will be tough to surpass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Emerson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver I also do not feel he must win The French Open to surpass Woods as the more dominant player. Federer has to play on different surfaces as opposed to Tiger playing on generally the same course. Because there is one of five surfaces that one person can beat him on, does not take away from his dominance.
 
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