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This ought to get some heads rolling...

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Having spent four years in Amherst, I can attest that Mr. Gonzalez's sentiments are "mainstream" for that town. Hell, in Amherst, they don't celebrate Presidents' Day, but do celebrate Malcolm X's birthday. Go figure.
 
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I have a great respect for Pat Tillman in the fact that he stepped up to the plate like so many other Americans do each and every day by joining the Armed services. I happen to have numerous friend and even a family member in Iraq or Afghanistan. I applaud the UMass paper for having the courage to print such a controversial piece and I have to say that this grad student has said his piece and has shown how ignorant and uneducated he really is. Pat Tillman is no rambo, rather he was a highly skilled and trained man with many God given physical talents that chose to use those talents to defend the fredom that this worthless Puerto Rican enjoys as an "American". I just hope that this Gonzolaez character wakes up to the fact without men like Tillman he would not enjoy the luxuries and freedoms he now does.
 
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Very sad. I ran across this article early yesterday as I was searching for Buckeye related articles for the front page. Frankly it wasn't Buckeye related so it didn't get posted, maybe I'll add a general news heading to cover topics like this.

Anyway, the kid has the right to his opinions. I couldn't be less in agreement with them. It seems he is now offering up an apology and a repositioning of his intent with the article. Hogwash. If you have an opinion and it is worth publishing, then you DAMN WELL better believe in it. Retracting, apologizing and deflecting after the damage is done shows what little conviction he had in the opinion to begin with. Pathetic.

The Editorial Board's statements are WORSE in my opinion. They are even more gutless. They distance themselves from the article and make painfully clear that this article DOESN'T relect the editor's or paper's opinions. All the while spouting the virtues of the First Amendment to defend their lack of judgement. Slimy attention whores.

On the whole, the repositioning of this kid's intention with the article COULD be acceptable. From what I gather, he is now saying the article was meant to point out the hypocrisy of a media that will make Tillman (who has some celebrity) a "hero" while other soldiers who die alongside of him remain nameless. If this was the true intent of his opinion piece, then it does have some merit (this was even discussed in a previous thread here at BP). Even the Tillman family will say that their son was no more a hero than any other soldier fighting and dying for his country. BUT, if that was the true intent of the article, why didn't Rene list some of these other heros? Why didn't he point out that the media is making Tillman a hero moreso that his brothers in arms? NO, I think this was an anti war piece that took a cheap shot (that is the kindest term I can think of) at an American who paid the ultimate price. All for some cheap publicity. It really makes me sick that some people can actually have these beliefs. Hey, if you disagree with the war, fine, say so. ANYONE would lampoon and ridicule someone who has paid the ultimate price of freedom is not deserving of an opinion OR citizenship in this country.
 
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This is not only a slap in the face to Pat Tillman and his family but to every veteran past, present and future. It's sad that military members make the ultimate sacrifice so this asshole has the freedom to write shit like he did.
 
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I could tell he was that type of macho guy, from his scowling, beefy face on the CNN pictures.
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Well, that's one thing he got right. I went to Airborne school at Fort Benning where the Rangers train. And let me tell you, people talk about swagger on these boards. But you don't know swagger until you see Rangers. They are crazy SOB's. They are the type of people that walk around with a "don't fuck with me" strut and back it up. They take on obstacles that normal people think are impossible to overcome and think "This is for pussies." These "pandego Rambos" eat raw steel and shit barbed wire. They absolutely live up to their billing as the elite light infantry soldiers. I for one feel safer that people like that are out there protecting me.

Fuck that little pussy Rene Gonzalez, I had a friend die in the first Gulf War, and he wasn't there because he was fullfilling his dreams of being a Rambo. He was there because he loved the Army and loved America. It's amazing that little sawwed off shits like that have the balls to speak that way when they have no idea what it's really like to go to war. What it's like to to board a plane or ship and look back on this country that you love so much that you are willing to die for it and wonder if you'll ever see it again. To be in a foreign land among people who hate you. To freak out every time a child aproaches you cause you don't know if the little basterd has a bomb strapped to his belly or is just wanting some chocolate. The absolute terrifying shock at the sight of a fog bank moving in, cause who knows if it's just fog or if its a chemical attack. The feeling of emptiness that lives in you for the rest of your whole GOD DAMN LIFE WHEN YOUR FRIEND IS MURDERED BY ONE OF THOSE HEATHAN BASTARDS. That he died when it should have been you. To know that this man who had a wife and children at home died amongst a people who aren't worthy of drinking his piss will never see them again. Fuck you Rene Gonzalez, enjoy your 15 minutes, you've probabley gotten what you wanted, enjoy working for the Enquirerer you ignorant fuck.

EDIT: Anyone who thinks war is fun needs to pull their heads out of their ass. What I went through was nothing compared to what others have and it was not fun. It was the opposite of fun. For any of the other veterans reading this let me be the first to get in line to thank you. Freedom isn't free and you and people like you paid the price for the wonerfull life that I have now.
 
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tough call for me

I'm not sure we should have entered Iraq...but I do know that I support our soldiers for they are following orders...

that said, there is something about the article that is disgusting....fight the politics of the war, not the young man doing his duty by following orders. I would love to know if they truly think it a good idea to be there...from those I have talked with, and what I have heard, most military guys despise war...

question...

do you think Tillman would jump down this writers throat, or support their right to express their opinion? Isn't that one of the reasons we fight wars(in theory)?
 
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