Thee Ohio State University News

[DaiMonMoore]

Surprised he didn't bring back Bob Thuggins.

Wait, he's dead right?

oops actually he's not.

 

[AKAK]

 

[Thump]

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/ohio-state-university/ohio-state-announces-free-tuition-options-for-in-state-students/

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Freshman class shrunk by 10%, which is good news. Still needs to get down to the 7000-7500 range.

 

[BuckBackHome]

Freshman class shrunk by 10%, which is good news. Still needs to get down to the 7000-7500 range.

I heard a rumor there were nearly 90k applications for this year’s freshman class. Any truth to that?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I heard a rumor there were nearly 90k applications for this year’s freshman class. Any truth to that?

Wouldn't surprise me. We were at 80K last year, and admissions misjudged what our yield would be. That's how we ended up with the 9100 person freshman class. Class profile didn't slip though. If we did have 90K applications for a freshman class of 8200, we should see a nice bump in the freshman class profile. We're already more selective than every University of California campus except Berkeley and UCLA. If we shrink the class down to 7K, we'd certainly be right there with them.

Another interesting fact is that our pre-admit Honors class is about the size and class rank/SAT quality as the Dartmouth freshman class

 

[BuckBackHome]

Thanks. Also heard some Ohio-based applicants were not even accepted to one of the branch campuses. And these were kids with decent GPAs and test scores. I thought the branches had to accept OH residents.

 

[calibuck]

Yeah, believe that is a condition of being a 'land grant university'. At Miami, they used a housing shortage as a limiting factor. But there's enough private housing around tOSU campus that doesn't hold water.

 

[Jagdaddy]

Thanks. Also heard some Ohio-based applicants were not even accepted to one of the branch campuses. And these were kids with decent GPAs and test scores. I thought the branches had to accept OH residents.

I've got beef with that if it's accurate. I don't even love the main campus getting overly selective given its land grant mission, but given the nature of the higher education game when it comes to prestige, fundraising, etc. and my general approval of the main campus as the "flagship" of Ohio public universities, I accept it and am a lot more comfortable with it if kids can get into a branch campus as of right and transfer to Columbus if they succeed there.

 

[Steve19]

Behind all of this is the slipping perception of value in a university degree. Gallup Poll now shows huge slide in 15 years (Gallup article)

 

[BuckBackHome]

I've got beef with that if it's accurate. I don't even love the main campus getting overly selective given its land grant mission, but given the nature of the higher education game when it comes to prestige, fundraising, etc. and my general approval of the main campus as the "flagship" of Ohio public universities, I accept it and am a lot more comfortable with it if kids can get into a branch campus as of right and transfer to Columbus if they succeed there.

I'm hoping the person who told me the story had it wrong as I agree the OSU branch campuses should accept all OH residents.

One other side story - heard from more than one person about a kid accepted into Miami U and an OSU branch campus. All went the OSU branch route.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Thanks. Also heard some Ohio-based applicants were not even accepted to one of the branch campuses. And these were kids with decent GPAs and test scores. I thought the branches had to accept OH residents.

Yeah, believe that is a condition of being a 'land grant university'. At Miami, they used a housing shortage as a limiting factor. But there's enough private housing around tOSU campus that doesn't hold water.

Every college in Ohio is legally open admissions. Main campuses are allowed to be selective if their or some of their branch campuses remain open admissions. I'd guess that there might be a space and faculty limits at the more popular Ohio State branches like Newark, but a couple are still maintained as open admission.

The screw job that Fredo did in the late 60s was based on that since their first branch campus opened the year before they were allowed to become selective. The housing shortage was a con. They simply never requested the money from the state (and their former President who Rhodes' pick as Chair of the Ohio Board of Regents) never made them take the money to build the necessary dorm space for the burgeoning baby boom enrollment. Every other campus (notably including the state's flagship) was forced to build that dorm space. The hollowness of Fredo's 15 year "public ivy" glory was exposed by how quick it all fell apart when Ohio State moved to selective admissions.

I've got beef with that if it's accurate. I don't even love the main campus getting overly selective given its land grant mission, but given the nature of the higher education game when it comes to prestige, fundraising, etc. and my general approval of the main campus as the "flagship" of Ohio public universities, I accept it and am a lot more comfortable with it if kids can get into a branch campus as of right and transfer to Columbus if they succeed there.

There's no requirement for a lang-grant college to have open or even easy admissions. Berkeley is a land-grant college as are Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue and Minnesota. Ohio State is the flagship campus for a major state. It should strive to be as selective as it can be and attract the best students from across the country. As Ed Jennings would tell any politician, business leader or newspaper publisher in the early 80s, "Ohio can have a world class flagship university or it can have an open admissions flagship university; It can't have both." As I said above, there might be space limitations at Newark necessitating some selectivity, but I'm sure that at least a couple of the Ohio State branches remain open.