The Loss Of Helmet Rule

[Taosman]

I'm really getting pissed at this most ridiculous of rules. Yes, I know there was a major injury today as a result of a head collision(no helmets were lost), but this is just a misguided attempt at safety. And the players are wise to it so they are taking advantage by ripping helmets off opposing players at critical times. Game flow is screwed, also.
Stop the madness!

 

[Jake]

The onside kick fair catch after one bounce rule is the dumbest rule in football. How long until they just play flag football and get rid of contact altogether?

 

[dragurd]

Yeah I hate that one Jake. people going mad in the name of player safety.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

And the players are wise to it so they are taking advantage by ripping helmets off opposing players at critical times. Game flow is screwed, also.

Learn the rule first, Peyote Pete. If the helmet comes off because an opposing player removes it (not by hit) then the player losing the helmet does not have to come out for a play.

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Learn the rule first, Peyote Pete. If the helmet comes off because an opposing player removes it (not by hit) then the player losing the helmet does not have to come out for a play.

And, the player who removed it should be ejected, per a conversation I had with an NCAA official. IF they are not, and film shows the issue, the league office can suspend the offending player for the following game.

Problem is, as I see it, a helmet off is tangible. Running a kid because you thought he ripped it of is speculative... with a big set of consequences.

And no conference is going to piss off one of its coaches by retroactively making a judgement call.

 

[Taosman]

And, the player who removed it should be ejected, per a conversation I had with an NCAA official. IF they are not, and film shows the issue, the league office can suspend the offending player for the following game.

Problem is, as I see it, a helmet off is tangible. Running a kid because you thought he ripped it of is speculative... with a big set of consequences.

And no conference is going to [censored] off one of its coaches by retroactively making a judgement call.

I agree. There is a lot going on in tackle pile ups that doesn't get or isn't getting called. The refs are in a bind on calling a penalty for a ripped off helmet. This is just a bad rule, period! It effects the game in a negative way.

 

[Taosman]

The onside kick fair catch after one bounce rule is the dumbest rule in football. How long until they just play flag football and get rid of contact altogether?

This is another dumb rule, just not as game effecting as the "Loss of Helmet" rule. Frequency of penalty calls.

 

[Dryden]

Gotta admit, I'd never realized how many helmets came off until this rule went into effect; probably once every two or three possessions in every game I've watched so far.

 

[Woody1968]

Gotta admit, I'd never realized how many helmets came off until this rule went into effect; probably once every two or three possessions in every game I've watched so far.

This did not happen 15 years ago. The helmets that they started using in the early 2000s, designed to prevent concussions and be safer than the older helmets are the ones that are likely to pop off spontaneously.

 

[Taosman]

It looks to me like since the start of this season that players are taking advantage of the rule and no penalty against them is getting called because of a reluctance by refs to be controversial. So we see an interruption of game flow. And more helmets suddenly coming off.

 

[Cincinnatibuck]

I'd rather you make the tackle and give up 15 yards than have the guy break one and score. When Jamie Woods helmet came off the blocker should of released him, instead he took Jamie to the ground which should of been a penalty and resulted in offsetting penalties since Woods got up and tried to still make the tackle.

 

[Ryan36_1]

I don't have a problem with the Jamie Wood 'take yourself out of the play' part of the rule. The sitting for one play part of the rule is ridiculous though; it is a solution in need of a problem. Even though helmets do pop off more frequently, I cannot remember any injuries, major or minor, in CFB caused by a helmet-less player being struck in the head.

 

[exhawg]

I don't have as big of a problem with the helmet rule. If players were wearing properly sized, properly strapped helmets they wouldn't be falling off like they do. I once had a guy jump on my back and try to rip my helmet off and it wouldn't come off so in most of these cases I'd bet they aren't doing something right. If a guy gets hit like Kurt Coleman yesterday and his helmet comes off it might be best to take him out for a play to make sure he is good to go.

The onside kick rule will kill any chance of making a comeback. Without the one hop onside kick there is pretty much 0 chance of getting an onside kick when the defense knows it's coming. Someone is going to have to come up with a new way to kick an onside kick.

 

[muffler dragon]

I think the 15 yard personal foul penalty of the helmet rule is bullshit.

 

[AJHawkfan]

I think the 15 yard personal foul penalty of the helmet rule is bullshit.

What happens if a RB collides with a defensive player and his (rb's) helmet pops off, but he's still on his feet? (I remember this happening to Mike Alstott on more than one occassion.) Does he have to take a knee or just drop the ball? Or finish the play, knowing he's going to get a 15 yard penalty?

Not trying to be a smart ass, just asking the question.