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The Gubmint Is Coming To Save The Mid Majors

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ORD_Buckeye

ORD_Buckeye

Wrong glass, Sir.
And make everything fair and equal. Here's a particular piece of idiocy, and the stupid goes far beyond simply not knowing how to spell "leveled."

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16 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:


The coaching salaries are only one small bit of this conversation. The bigger area of concern in my mind are the revenue streams that are purposely designed with restricted access for what are mainly, as in around 90%, public entities that are tax exempt and receive federal money.

Agreed. I feel a little differently about private institutions, but when it comes to government entities, the playing field needs to be levelled. In no way should the University of Oklahoma be making 100x what the University of Idaho (to name one example) does just because they got lucky by having a few more boosters and hiring the right guy who could get the right recruits at the right time, thereby building a football juggernaut over many decades. It is a system that has tremendously rewarded luck and being at the right place at the right time. And now the haves closed the gates to the have nots (or unlucky). This should not be the case for public entities. It is past time for some national oversight by Congress. I think media rights pooling needs to be discussed, but at a minimum, the playoffs should be open to any football program and some oversight of the rankings system used to determine entrance into the playoffs needs to happen.
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And no, this guy is not being sarcastic, though that might be a logical thought since he literally undermines his own argument by pointing out that P5 programs made massive investments over decades to build their programs and brand. I'll say it once again, and as one who feels this country should enforce antitrust laws much more vigorously, simply having a product that very few people want is not a trigger for antitrust enforcement.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Yeah... having foresight and investing in sport a hundred years ago is "luck"

Seriously. Think about that. Ohio State built the Shoe in 1921 to open in 1922. It wasn't cheap, and it was a risk.
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These school are like Cousin Eddie, only they demand that Clark let them sit at the head of the table and carve the god damned turkey.
 
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You know what's really unfair is that Ohio State completed a 3 billion dollar fundraising campaign and is about to start a new one with a 4.5 billion dollar goal while UNLV and Nevada-Reno have to struggle by with their entire endowments under 300M. Endowment pooling needs to be discussed. I don't care that Ohio State hired some guy and invested in a fundraising and research office in the 1930s or completed what at the time was the largest multi-year fundraising campaign ever by a public university in the 1980s. Why should UNLV and Nevada-Reno be penalized for Ohio State's blind luck.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...mit-skyrocketing-salaries-of-college-coaches/




Very telling
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Now, I do think that the issue of the spending arms race in college athletics is a very valid issue for examination. That, however, is completely separate from those idiots on the MWC board who think that this will somehow lead to the government taking money away from Ohio State or Georgia and giving it to them. And if we're going to talk about irresponsible spending on college athletics then the first item of business should be schools like UNLV or Miami of Ohio who subsidize money losing athletic departments at grotesque levels that often equal 10% of a student's tuition. And the solution to that problem is not going to be stripping Ohio State's fencers, hockey players and swimmers of their scholarships and sports to send the money to Reno.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Now, I do think that the issue of the spending arms race in college athletics is a very valid issue for examination. That, however, is completely separate from those idiots on the MWC board who think that this will somehow lead to the government taking money away from Ohio State or Georgia and giving it to them. And if we're going to talk about irresponsible spending on college athletics then the first item of business should be schools like UNLV or Miami of Ohio who subsidize money losing athletic departments at grotesque levels that often equal 10% of a student's tuition. And the solution to that problem is not going to be stripping Ohio State's fencers, hockey players and swimmers of their scholarships and sports to send the money to Reno.
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Don’t you “social justice” man ..tOSU didn’t create their wealth the government did now it’s time to pay their share.
 
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It is past time for some national oversight by Congress. I think media rights pooling needs to be discussed, but at a minimum, the playoffs should be open to any football program and some oversight of the rankings system used to determine entrance into the playoffs needs to happen.
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Congress picking playoff teams. What could go wrong?
 
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He's banging the stupid gong again.

All I am saying is OU has been in the right place (located near Texas) at the right times and made the right decisions on coaching. All it takes are a few things to break your way before you create a juggernaut over time. Some of it is blind ass luck. Who is to say some of the have nots couldn't have done the same?

I don't think a geographic/demographic disadvantage should lead to no access to the playoff system. Especially when you are talking about government entities competing against each other.
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I'm sorry 5 star stud from Canton who grew up dreaming of being a Buckeye. You just got drafted by Montana. Pack those bags for Bozeman, Grizzly!
 
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I've contemplated this in the past. What made some of the "blue bloods" what they are? You could argue that Ohio State is what it is because of the wealth of talent that doesn't have to be shared in the state. But how did Oklahoma become a powerhouse program and not Kansas? How about Notre Dame? They aren't a particularly large school and aren't in a sexy area, why them and not Boston College?
 
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JCOSU86 said:
I've contemplated this in the past. What made some of the "blue bloods" what they are? You could argue that Ohio State is what it is because of the wealth of talent that doesn't have to be shared in the state. But how did Oklahoma become a powerhouse program and not Kansas? How about Notre Dame? They aren't a particularly large school and aren't in a sexy area, why them and not Boston College?
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Well, we know how tsun became one, so perhaps UNLV should start Fielding semi-pro teams full of athletes who've used up their eligibility at Ohio State, Alabama or Georgia.
 
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