Well yeah. Urban and Saban are better than good. Good as in he will win 8-10 games every year.....sometimes win a conference.....likely never compete for a NC. He's not going to win multiple National Championships.
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4th and 6 at OSU 19
(9:06 - 3rd) Cameron Johnston run for 3 yds to the OhSt 22
I watched the 60 minute (i.e. fast forwarded) version of the game on BTN last night.
Just sayin': The fake punt wasn't that bad of call. Cameron Johnston just missed a first down by 3 yards. Had Hubbard (#6) sustained his block on #29 for a couple seconds longer Johnston would have had the first down.
(9:06 - 3rd) Cameron Johnston run for 3 yds to the OhSt 22
I watched the 60 minute (i.e. fast forwarded) version of the game on BTN last night.
Just sayin': The fake punt wasn't that bad of call. Cameron Johnston just missed a first down by 3 yards. Had Hubbard (#6) sustained his block on #29 for a couple seconds longer Johnston would have had the first down.
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It was apparently a look from the tsun defense they had picked up on film and were waiting for. It was the perfect call, it just wasn't executed well (and credit to the tsun kid #29. He didn't get lazy and just rush up field or it would have been a huge play.)
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...tate-greenstein-spt-1225-20161222-column.html
A deep dive into Big Ten officiating — and the Michigan-Ohio State calls
Teddy Greenstein
Chicago Tribune
Know this about the college football officials who draw your ire on Saturdays: Their every move is scrutinized.
From the moment they leave home for a game, they're on company time. That means no beer with Friday dinner. And if their game is in Las Vegas, no restaurant attached to a casino.
Once they step onto the field, if they chitchat with a coach or athletic director from School A, they're expected to give equal time to School B.
Bill Carollo, the Big Ten's coordinator of football officials, has heard coaches gripe about refs who seem to be waving to members of the crowd on one side of the stadium before a game.
Aha! I knew that zebra had friends on the other side!
And then Carollo informs the coach: The official was signaling to a crew member in the press box that his beeper was working.
Carollo met with the Tribune for three hours last week at Big Ten headquarters in Rosemont to offer insight into the profession, review the season and break down some controversial plays.
J.T. Barrett's awkward fourth-and-1 scamper in the Ohio State-Michigan game? Should Ohio natives have been allowed to officiate the game? We'll get to that.
Cont'd ...
A deep dive into Big Ten officiating — and the Michigan-Ohio State calls
Teddy Greenstein
Chicago Tribune
Know this about the college football officials who draw your ire on Saturdays: Their every move is scrutinized.
From the moment they leave home for a game, they're on company time. That means no beer with Friday dinner. And if their game is in Las Vegas, no restaurant attached to a casino.
Once they step onto the field, if they chitchat with a coach or athletic director from School A, they're expected to give equal time to School B.
Bill Carollo, the Big Ten's coordinator of football officials, has heard coaches gripe about refs who seem to be waving to members of the crowd on one side of the stadium before a game.
Aha! I knew that zebra had friends on the other side!
And then Carollo informs the coach: The official was signaling to a crew member in the press box that his beeper was working.
Carollo met with the Tribune for three hours last week at Big Ten headquarters in Rosemont to offer insight into the profession, review the season and break down some controversial plays.
J.T. Barrett's awkward fourth-and-1 scamper in the Ohio State-Michigan game? Should Ohio natives have been allowed to officiate the game? We'll get to that.
Cont'd ...
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Good article.
Re: Carollo also tells coaches: "The toughest job on the field belongs to the quarterback. The second-toughest — the officials."
Probably very true.
Re: To hear Michigan fans (one pictured below) tell it — or show it on a 3-minute, 39-second YouTube video titled "Disgrace to the Rivalry" — the officials blew more than 5.6 calls on Nov. 26 at Ohio Stadium. And every one, they seem to believe, victimized the Wolverines.
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I'm watching this on ESPNU while I do some vacation planning. The 2:50 mark in the 3rd quarter is when it all changed.....thanks to that dipshit clown coach they have. Thanks for being you, Harbaugh......you chucklefuck.
- Long screen pass by Michigan gets called back for a senseless facemask call on the Mich center
- Dipshit clown thinks he should still get the first down, has to call a time out to bitch about it to the refs
- 2 plays later, Jerome Baker INT
- Before JT can even get a play off, Michigan jumps offsides and dipshit clown.....still pissed off over the correct non-first down call....throws his play sheet onto the field. 15 yards + the offsides penalty + a JT run + a Weber plunge = TD good guys
He's a fine coach. He'll never win shit, because he's too much of a mental midget. Keep him for as long as you want, douchebags. Cheer on your 10 win seasons. You won't win shit with him. Certainly not a title. CFB is Alabama, Ohio State, and everybody else right now. Clemson and FSU are knocking on that door. Michigan doesn't even know what street it's on.
- Long screen pass by Michigan gets called back for a senseless facemask call on the Mich center
- Dipshit clown thinks he should still get the first down, has to call a time out to bitch about it to the refs
- 2 plays later, Jerome Baker INT
- Before JT can even get a play off, Michigan jumps offsides and dipshit clown.....still pissed off over the correct non-first down call....throws his play sheet onto the field. 15 yards + the offsides penalty + a JT run + a Weber plunge = TD good guys
He's a fine coach. He'll never win shit, because he's too much of a mental midget. Keep him for as long as you want, douchebags. Cheer on your 10 win seasons. You won't win shit with him. Certainly not a title. CFB is Alabama, Ohio State, and everybody else right now. Clemson and FSU are knocking on that door. Michigan doesn't even know what street it's on.
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I'd say Clemson belongs. They've been impressive enough over the past four or five seasons to say that team is a lot more than just Boyd & Watson.
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I'm gonna have to see Dabo do it without one of the best college QBs ever before I put him up there. Jimbo looked like he was going to be in that category too until Jameis left. What separates Saban and Urban from everyone else is that it usually doesn't matter who's under center. Saban came 2 minutes away from winning #6 with a freshman QB who couldn't throw worth a damn. Urban won a natty with Chris Leak and a 3rd string QB, in addition to one of the best college QBs ever.
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A GAME-SAVING PLAY
Michigan had just hit a 37-yard field goal in double overtime, putting Ohio State in a situation where a touchdown would win the game and a field goal would send it into triple overtime.
A 5-yard run from J.T. Barrett and a 4-yard sack put the Buckeyes in an uncomfortable 3rd-and-9 situation from the Wolverines’ 24-yard line. That set Curtis Samuel up for a remarkable, roundabout eight-yard gain.
“It's actually a misread by our quarterback,” Meyer said. “Curtis Samuel's going to swing to the right. We're reading a linebacker again. Watch Curtis' effort here. If he gets stopped here, we lose the game. And he launches himself here and gets us to fourth-and-1.”
Heroic.
“THE SPOT” NEARLY NEVER HAPPENED
When Samuel went down, Ohio State got put in a game-on-the-line, 4th-and-1 situation. But Meyer wasted no time.
“We try to go fast,” Meyer said. “We're going tempo. Right now, I know we're going. I'm saying, 'Go jet, jet, jet jet,' which means go fast. And we're going to run just an inside zone to Mike Weber. We're trying to get him going.”
Michigan, scrambling to get into position, responded by calling a timeout.
If Jim Harbaugh didn't use his only timeout, who knows whether Weber would’ve picked up the first down or not. But what became known as “The Spot” never would have happened.
GOING FOR IT REGARDLESS
Michigan calling a timeout allowed Ohio State to rethink its fourth-down plan. On the 16-yard line, was it worth kicking a field goal hoping to send it into triple overtime?
Meyer didn’t second guess the decision to go for it.
“Our kicker was great,” Meyer said. “But I saw the look in Durbin's face as he came off after he missed the one. And in my heart, I'm thinking we have to score a touchdown to win. We're going to get to the fourth-down call here in a minute, but we would've went for it regardless. If it was 4th-and-2, we would've went for it.”
With the game on the line, Barrett pounded the ball up the middle, barely getting the ball to the first-down marker.
“This is intense now,” Meyer said. “I'm standing right there and I see the line judge put the ball down, and all you've got to do is get to the 15. And they called first down. Wow. And the official linesman on the side said, ‘Coach, they're buzzing me. We're going to replay it.’ I thought, ‘Oh, gosh.’”
The call stood. First down, Ohio State.
MICHIGAN’S OFFENSIVE LINE COACH BEAT MICHIGAN
One play later, Samuel finished it.
To wrap up one of the greatest Ohio State-Michigan games of all time, Samuel got the ball in his hands, followed Weber as the lead blocker, cut inside, raced toward the end zone and leaped, arms outstretched, as he crossed the goal line. As Samuel wrote in the Instagram Live as the play happened: Ball game.
Who called the game-winning play? Former Ohio State offensive coordinator and current Michigan offensive line coach Ed Warinner, per Meyer.
“We lined up in an unbalanced formation, motioned back,” Meyer said. “One of the few times they didn't adjust properly and we outnumbered them to the boundary, and Curtis obviously accelerated in for the win.”
Immediately after Samuel scored, Meyer fell to the ground with relief.
“I don't even remember doing it,” Meyer said. “I remember people yanking on your headset. I saw Troy Smith talking about fans are nuts when they rush on the field, trying to grab anything they can, headsets or game plans.”
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Opinion: Memories of the 2016 OSU-Michigan game
The 2016 edition of the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry was a game that will never be forgotten by Buckeye fans.
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ESPN had originally been planning on showing “The Spot Game” from 2016 between Ohio State and Michigan, but at the last minute TWWL decided to call an audible and show the conclusion of their H-O-R-S-E competition instead. I guess this just shows more of ESPN’s anti-Ohio State bias, amirite? At least a silver lining, Buckeye fans can root for Mike Conley to win on Thursday night.
The Big Ten Network has picked up the slack and will be showing the 2016 edition of The Game on Friday afternoon at 4 pm EST. While the rivalry has been rather lopsided in favor of Ohio State for the past two decades, every now and then the teams play a game that will be remembered years down the road. 2016 is one of those years. Even watching the replay feels like it takes years off my life. Watching it live in late November in 2016 was excruciating. So I figured, why not relive all the pain and pleasure that came with the classic from three and a half years ago?
For the past seven years my plans for The Game have been the same. A good friend of mine in Worthington hosts a party for his friends and neighbors. Since The Game now falls a couple days after Thanksgiving, some people bring over leftovers, while others bring over some of their favorite dishes and best cooked meats. And the drinks, oh the drinks. Zak brews his own beer, so there is three taps in his garage dedicated to beer, and inside there is plenty of ammunition to make mixed drinks. With food and drink taken care of, all we have to do is root for a Buckeye win, and so far the tradition is perfect.
Over the last seven years, there haven’t been many moments of doubt in the rivalry for Ohio State. Even in 2014 when J.T. Barrett broke his leg, the doubt was more about what lied ahead after the Michigan game for the Buckeyes. The one year with the most stress was undoubtedly 2016. The season leading up to The Game was a roller coaster ride for both teams, and things would get even weirder on the last Saturday of November.
Since The Game was in Columbus, Zak’s party wasn’t quite as populated as the previous year, as some of the normal attendees had tickets to the game. The setup has a TV going inside, where a lot of the parents with children hang out so they can also keep an eye on the kids. We also open up the garage and set a TV up out there, and that’s where I usually watch. You know me, gotta stay close to the beer.
Over the last decade, more often than not we have been spoiled with relatively warm weather for The Game. 2016 wasn’t particularly cold, but for some reason I was freezing. Even though I was sufficiently layered, to me it felt like it was closer to zero than 40 degrees. In the second half and overtimes I was even bundled up in a big blanket. It probably would have helped my struggle to stay warm if the game didn’t hang in the balance until the end.
As if the usual battle for bragging rights between the rivals wasn’t enough, 2016 saw both times fighting for a College Football Playoff spot. With both teams having already lost once heading into The Game, we knew that only the winner had a shot at being a part of the playoff field. Ohio State was looking for the second appearance in three years, while Michigan was looking for their first CFP bid.
After Michigan scored first with a field goal early in the second quarter, the Buckeyes responded with a 16-yard interception return for a touchdown from Malik Hooker. That would be the only scoring Ohio State would do for a while. The Wolverines took a 10-7 lead into halftime, and extended the lead to 17-7 in the third quarter. This was a position I was unfamiliar with during The Game. When was the last time Michigan led the Buckeyes by 10 points? It felt like decades.
Since Ohio State’s offense couldn’t get going, I knew the defense was going to have to pick up the slack and possibly put up another touchdown to get back in the game. Even though it wasn’t a touchdown, Jerome Baker returned a Wilson Speight interception 22 yards to the Michigan 13-yard line with just over a minute left in the third quarter. The Buckeyes would cash in a couple plays later to cut the deficit to 17-14.
By this time I’m about pulling my hair out, since Michigan leading Ohio State heading into the fourth quarter is something I’m not used to. I got even more heated when Tyler Durbin missed a 21-yard field goal with around seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter. At this point I’m wondering if Urban Meyer is going to lose his first game to Michigan as head coach of Ohio State. Durbin was able to redeem himself, hitting a 23-yard field goal as regulation expired. I’m pretty sure I was so nervous during that kick that I couldn’t even bring myself to watch the field goal, instead just waiting to hear if the kick was able to go in.
Nerves were kicked into an even higher gear in overtime after Ohio State scored on just two plays into their first possessions. Michigan took a little longer to score, not reaching the end zone until the Buckeyes pushed them to 4th & goal. Things would only get crazier from this point.
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Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...good-college-football-jt-barrett-curts-samuel
The 2016 edition of the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry was a game that will never be forgotten by Buckeye fans.
ESPN had originally been planning on showing “The Spot Game” from 2016 between Ohio State and Michigan, but at the last minute TWWL decided to call an audible and show the conclusion of their H-O-R-S-E competition instead. I guess this just shows more of ESPN’s anti-Ohio State bias, amirite? At least a silver lining, Buckeye fans can root for Mike Conley to win on Thursday night.
The Big Ten Network has picked up the slack and will be showing the 2016 edition of The Game on Friday afternoon at 4 pm EST. While the rivalry has been rather lopsided in favor of Ohio State for the past two decades, every now and then the teams play a game that will be remembered years down the road. 2016 is one of those years. Even watching the replay feels like it takes years off my life. Watching it live in late November in 2016 was excruciating. So I figured, why not relive all the pain and pleasure that came with the classic from three and a half years ago?
For the past seven years my plans for The Game have been the same. A good friend of mine in Worthington hosts a party for his friends and neighbors. Since The Game now falls a couple days after Thanksgiving, some people bring over leftovers, while others bring over some of their favorite dishes and best cooked meats. And the drinks, oh the drinks. Zak brews his own beer, so there is three taps in his garage dedicated to beer, and inside there is plenty of ammunition to make mixed drinks. With food and drink taken care of, all we have to do is root for a Buckeye win, and so far the tradition is perfect.
Over the last seven years, there haven’t been many moments of doubt in the rivalry for Ohio State. Even in 2014 when J.T. Barrett broke his leg, the doubt was more about what lied ahead after the Michigan game for the Buckeyes. The one year with the most stress was undoubtedly 2016. The season leading up to The Game was a roller coaster ride for both teams, and things would get even weirder on the last Saturday of November.
Since The Game was in Columbus, Zak’s party wasn’t quite as populated as the previous year, as some of the normal attendees had tickets to the game. The setup has a TV going inside, where a lot of the parents with children hang out so they can also keep an eye on the kids. We also open up the garage and set a TV up out there, and that’s where I usually watch. You know me, gotta stay close to the beer.
Over the last decade, more often than not we have been spoiled with relatively warm weather for The Game. 2016 wasn’t particularly cold, but for some reason I was freezing. Even though I was sufficiently layered, to me it felt like it was closer to zero than 40 degrees. In the second half and overtimes I was even bundled up in a big blanket. It probably would have helped my struggle to stay warm if the game didn’t hang in the balance until the end.
As if the usual battle for bragging rights between the rivals wasn’t enough, 2016 saw both times fighting for a College Football Playoff spot. With both teams having already lost once heading into The Game, we knew that only the winner had a shot at being a part of the playoff field. Ohio State was looking for the second appearance in three years, while Michigan was looking for their first CFP bid.
After Michigan scored first with a field goal early in the second quarter, the Buckeyes responded with a 16-yard interception return for a touchdown from Malik Hooker. That would be the only scoring Ohio State would do for a while. The Wolverines took a 10-7 lead into halftime, and extended the lead to 17-7 in the third quarter. This was a position I was unfamiliar with during The Game. When was the last time Michigan led the Buckeyes by 10 points? It felt like decades.
Since Ohio State’s offense couldn’t get going, I knew the defense was going to have to pick up the slack and possibly put up another touchdown to get back in the game. Even though it wasn’t a touchdown, Jerome Baker returned a Wilson Speight interception 22 yards to the Michigan 13-yard line with just over a minute left in the third quarter. The Buckeyes would cash in a couple plays later to cut the deficit to 17-14.
By this time I’m about pulling my hair out, since Michigan leading Ohio State heading into the fourth quarter is something I’m not used to. I got even more heated when Tyler Durbin missed a 21-yard field goal with around seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter. At this point I’m wondering if Urban Meyer is going to lose his first game to Michigan as head coach of Ohio State. Durbin was able to redeem himself, hitting a 23-yard field goal as regulation expired. I’m pretty sure I was so nervous during that kick that I couldn’t even bring myself to watch the field goal, instead just waiting to hear if the kick was able to go in.
Nerves were kicked into an even higher gear in overtime after Ohio State scored on just two plays into their first possessions. Michigan took a little longer to score, not reaching the end zone until the Buckeyes pushed them to 4th & goal. Things would only get crazier from this point.
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Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...good-college-football-jt-barrett-curts-samuel
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ESPN to Air 2016 Michigan-Ohio State Game Thursday With Bonus Features
Have you grown tired of reliving Ohio State’s 2016 double-overtime win over the Michigan Wolverines? Neither has ESPN.
On Thursday, the sports network will be re-airing the game in a 4-hour presentation as part of their Throwback Thursday series of college football’s greatest games.
Beginning with a 20-minute pregame show at 7:00 pm Thursday, the program will feature additional commentary from those who covered the game, as well as those who were there on the field, most notably head coach Urban Meyer and quarterback JT Barrett.
Here is the full release from ESPN.
Throwback Thursday: CFB Classics – Encore Presentation of 2016 No. 3 Michigan at No. 2 Ohio State Airs This Week
Have you grown tired of reliving Ohio State’s 2016 double-overtime win over the Michigan Wolverines? Neither has ESPN.
On Thursday, the sports network will be re-airing the game in a 4-hour presentation as part of their Throwback Thursday series of college football’s greatest games.
Beginning with a 20-minute pregame show at 7:00 pm Thursday, the program will feature additional commentary from those who covered the game, as well as those who were there on the field, most notably head coach Urban Meyer and quarterback JT Barrett.
Here is the full release from ESPN.
Throwback Thursday: CFB Classics – Encore Presentation of 2016 No. 3 Michigan at No. 2 Ohio State Airs This Week
- Two Overtime Mega-Tilt Filled with Dramatic, Highly Debated Plays and Moments
- Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreit and Desmond Howard Conversation Added to Encore Presentation
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