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JXC
17-4 since 2001
The idea was brought up earlier...respond to whoever sent it to you and let them know it's stupid. The roar of the boo at the Michigan game fires up the crowd and is deafening. It's great. Turning your back, besides being stupid, doesn't make sense in this game. If you think you can get 100,000 people not to boo, you are nuts. All this will do is have less people booing...why not just have everyone boo.
Anyway...since what the weather will be like will probably be of interest to most...last forcast (even though it's not even Michigan week) has game time temps between 41 and 46 degrees with 11 MPH wind and mostly cloudy skies. 20% chance of precp.
If the stars are to allign for this game, it's going to be cold and overcast with little wind and maybe a sprinkle or a snow flurrie, but nothing more.
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OmahaBeef
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Is anyone else worried that a lot of Michigan fans are going to get tickets to this game? I just looked on Ebay, and a LOT of people are selling tickets. Thinking of hundreds Michigan fans in the Shoe for this game makes me feel sick.
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System makes OSU-Michigan rematch unlikely
A number of other teams with only one loss figure into the equation for the national title game.
By Doug Harris
Staff Writer
Friday, November 10, 2006
COLUMBUS ? The University of Oklahoma football team reached the 2003 Bowl Championship Series title game despite losing in the Big 12 championship game.
In an even more startling occurrence, Nebraska played for the 2001 national crown without even qualifying for the Big 12 title game.
But while Ohio State and Michigan could go into their Nov. 18 showdown undefeated, the loser has only a fleeting chance to play for the national championship because of the latest tweaks to the BCS system.
"This kind of thing happens, when a team loses late in the year but still makes the title game," CollegeBCS.com's Jerry Palm said. "But it happened when the formula was less poll-dependent. And polls punish teams for losing late in the year."
The USA Today coaches poll and the Harris Interactive poll now make up two-thirds of the BCS calculations, with an average of six computer rankings accounting for the other third.
When Oklahoma and Nebraska landed in the title game ? while being ranked third and fourth, respectively, by the Associated Press (which has since excused itself from the BCS process) ? human polls supplied only one-fourth of the total.
The Big East could produce one undefeated team this year, which certainly would be problematic for the Big Ten runner-up, and there are plenty of others who can make strong arguments for getting a title shot.
"This year, there are really eight or nine one-loss teams," Palm said. "It's not reasonable to expect the Ohio State-Michigan loser to be No. 2 or 3 in the polls. They'll probably be more like fifth.
"Could it happen? Yeah, but I wouldn't bet the house."
Jeff Sagarin, whose computer ratings are one of the BCS ingredients, doesn't like the odds of the Ohio State-Michigan loser finishing second in the final standings. But since both have victories over top-10 foes, he's not ruling it out.
"In the computers, theoretically, that could happen ? I've thought about that myself ? but would the human voters let that happen?" Sagarin said.
"The key is, if Ohio State is the loser, they definitely want Texas to win out. It would be hard for humans to vote Texas ahead of Ohio State. If Michigan loses, and Notre Dame wins out and crushes Southern Cal (Nov. 25), it would be hard for humans to put (the Irish) ahead of Michigan. Texas and Notre Dame are real important in this scenario."
Sagarin has figured out one way for the Big Ten to assure that the Buckeyes and Wolverines play for the national title ? cancel their regular-season game.
"What if something diabolical happened, like a health hazard or something, and that game was postponed?" he said, chuckling. "It's not going to happen, of course. But it's in the Big Ten's self-interest not to play that game."
About the BCS
Team percentages are derived by dividing a team's actual voting points by a maximum 2,850 possible points in the Harris Interactive poll and 1,575 possible points in the USA Today coaches poll.
Six computer rankings calculated in inverse order (25 points for No. 1, 24 for No. 2) are used to determine the overall computer component. The best and worst ranking for each team is dropped.
The BCS average is calculated by averaging the percent totals of the Harris, coaches and computer polls. A perfect score is 1.000, and Ohio State is ranked first with a .9865 total, slightly ahead of Michigan's .9706.
The Buckeyes have a .9996 tally in the Harris poll after receiving all but one possible point (2,849 divided by 2,850 equals .9996), a 1.000 mark in the coaches poll after getting every first-place vote and a .960 figure in the computers because of their 24-point average as the No. 2 team. Their .9865 score comes by averaging those three.
System makes OSU-Michigan rematch unlikely
A number of other teams with only one loss figure into the equation for the national title game.
By Doug Harris
Staff Writer
Friday, November 10, 2006
COLUMBUS ? The University of Oklahoma football team reached the 2003 Bowl Championship Series title game despite losing in the Big 12 championship game.
In an even more startling occurrence, Nebraska played for the 2001 national crown without even qualifying for the Big 12 title game.
But while Ohio State and Michigan could go into their Nov. 18 showdown undefeated, the loser has only a fleeting chance to play for the national championship because of the latest tweaks to the BCS system.
"This kind of thing happens, when a team loses late in the year but still makes the title game," CollegeBCS.com's Jerry Palm said. "But it happened when the formula was less poll-dependent. And polls punish teams for losing late in the year."
The USA Today coaches poll and the Harris Interactive poll now make up two-thirds of the BCS calculations, with an average of six computer rankings accounting for the other third.
When Oklahoma and Nebraska landed in the title game ? while being ranked third and fourth, respectively, by the Associated Press (which has since excused itself from the BCS process) ? human polls supplied only one-fourth of the total.
The Big East could produce one undefeated team this year, which certainly would be problematic for the Big Ten runner-up, and there are plenty of others who can make strong arguments for getting a title shot.
"This year, there are really eight or nine one-loss teams," Palm said. "It's not reasonable to expect the Ohio State-Michigan loser to be No. 2 or 3 in the polls. They'll probably be more like fifth.
"Could it happen? Yeah, but I wouldn't bet the house."
Jeff Sagarin, whose computer ratings are one of the BCS ingredients, doesn't like the odds of the Ohio State-Michigan loser finishing second in the final standings. But since both have victories over top-10 foes, he's not ruling it out.
"In the computers, theoretically, that could happen ? I've thought about that myself ? but would the human voters let that happen?" Sagarin said.
"The key is, if Ohio State is the loser, they definitely want Texas to win out. It would be hard for humans to vote Texas ahead of Ohio State. If Michigan loses, and Notre Dame wins out and crushes Southern Cal (Nov. 25), it would be hard for humans to put (the Irish) ahead of Michigan. Texas and Notre Dame are real important in this scenario."
Sagarin has figured out one way for the Big Ten to assure that the Buckeyes and Wolverines play for the national title ? cancel their regular-season game.
"What if something diabolical happened, like a health hazard or something, and that game was postponed?" he said, chuckling. "It's not going to happen, of course. But it's in the Big Ten's self-interest not to play that game."
About the BCS
Team percentages are derived by dividing a team's actual voting points by a maximum 2,850 possible points in the Harris Interactive poll and 1,575 possible points in the USA Today coaches poll.
Six computer rankings calculated in inverse order (25 points for No. 1, 24 for No. 2) are used to determine the overall computer component. The best and worst ranking for each team is dropped.
The BCS average is calculated by averaging the percent totals of the Harris, coaches and computer polls. A perfect score is 1.000, and Ohio State is ranked first with a .9865 total, slightly ahead of Michigan's .9706.
The Buckeyes have a .9996 tally in the Harris poll after receiving all but one possible point (2,849 divided by 2,850 equals .9996), a 1.000 mark in the coaches poll after getting every first-place vote and a .960 figure in the computers because of their 24-point average as the No. 2 team. Their .9865 score comes by averaging those three.
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Former players reflect on OSU-Michigan rivalry
By JOHN VARGO Tribune Chronicle
WARREN ? Ohio State, Michigan. This year, baring either team being upset this Saturday, the two will be playing in Columbus as the nation?s top two teams.
Second-ranked Michigan travels to No. 1 OSU on Nov. 18.
Thursday at DiVieste?s Banquet Hall, some past Buckeye and Wolverine coaches and players were in attendance in the annual gathering by the Warren Sports Hall of Fame ? ?The Game?. Bob Brudzinski, Bill Conley and Jeff Graham represented OSU, while Jerry Hanlon, Ricky Powers and Greg Skrepenak were the three for Michigan.
But this historic rivalry has always had the prominence the nation?s top two teams bring to the field, Skrepenak and Brudzinski said.
?I always thought playing Michigan it was No. 1 playing No. 2. That was, to me, our national championship right there,? said Brudzinski, an all-America linebacker in 1976. ??We ended up looking forward to that game most of the year. We practiced summer camp for that. We practiced all season for it. There was nothing else besides playing for Michigan. That?s all we looked forward to.
??If you don?t get up for a Michigan game, there?s something wrong with you.??
??We may not have been ranked one or two, but we felt we were ranked one and two going into the game. It adds that special feeling coming into this game. Bar none, the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry is the greatest rivalry, not in college football, but in all of sport. The one reason it carries on is the significance of the game,?? said Skrepenak, an offensive tackle that played from 1987-91. ??Normally it?s either a Big Ten championship or Rose Bowl berth, national ranking for a national championship. It?s one versus two. Baring anything happening, it should be one versus two.
??We feel this anyway, it?s one versus the two all the time. To the winner goes the victors and the losers go the spoils. The best team in the country comes out of that anyway, but it is extra special this year because of the scenario.?
Conley, a former coach and player, said both teams have all the intangibles on offense and have great defense ? making them the top two teams in the country.
The week, for Conley, has dual meanings for him. In addition to coaching under Earle Bruce, John Cooper and Jim Tressel, he played for legendary coach Woody Hayes.
?One thing you find out is there?s two different seasons. There?s the preseason and Big Ten, that?s season one. Then there?s the Michigan game. That?s a season in itself,? Conley said. ?Playing for coach Hayes in those days, you practiced against the University of Michigan ? no matter who you were playing that week. You can?t quite do that anymore today with the talent so divided because of scholarship limits. It?s the reason you come to Ohio State ? to play in games like that. It?s the same reason you go to Michigan ? to play in ?The Game.?
?It?s the greatest rivalry in all of athletics ? not only college football.?
That week leading up to ?The Game? provides different traditions. Ask Graham.
?Even the band will come over. You get the opportunity to walk with a band member. If you?re one of the captains, you get a chance to dot the Is. I was afraid to dot the I (as a Sousaphone player), so I grabbed one of those little trumpets and walk with the trumpet players as we do ?Script Ohio? on the practice field.?
It?s all of those factors that go into this long-standing rivalry, especially when selling your respective university.
?You use that all the time in recruiting. It?s the same with Michigan. You only recruit the very best of the best,? Conley said. ?If a young man doesn?t want to compete in a game like that, you don?t want to recruit that guy anyway.?
When Michigan recruited former Akron Buchtel standout Ricky Powers, he also became one of these storied players in this legendary rivalry.
?There?s no better rivalry in the world. You can?t compare this to anything. I was blessed enough to be part of this,? he said.
Former players reflect on OSU-Michigan rivalry
By JOHN VARGO Tribune Chronicle
WARREN ? Ohio State, Michigan. This year, baring either team being upset this Saturday, the two will be playing in Columbus as the nation?s top two teams.
Second-ranked Michigan travels to No. 1 OSU on Nov. 18.
Thursday at DiVieste?s Banquet Hall, some past Buckeye and Wolverine coaches and players were in attendance in the annual gathering by the Warren Sports Hall of Fame ? ?The Game?. Bob Brudzinski, Bill Conley and Jeff Graham represented OSU, while Jerry Hanlon, Ricky Powers and Greg Skrepenak were the three for Michigan.
But this historic rivalry has always had the prominence the nation?s top two teams bring to the field, Skrepenak and Brudzinski said.
?I always thought playing Michigan it was No. 1 playing No. 2. That was, to me, our national championship right there,? said Brudzinski, an all-America linebacker in 1976. ??We ended up looking forward to that game most of the year. We practiced summer camp for that. We practiced all season for it. There was nothing else besides playing for Michigan. That?s all we looked forward to.
??If you don?t get up for a Michigan game, there?s something wrong with you.??
??We may not have been ranked one or two, but we felt we were ranked one and two going into the game. It adds that special feeling coming into this game. Bar none, the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry is the greatest rivalry, not in college football, but in all of sport. The one reason it carries on is the significance of the game,?? said Skrepenak, an offensive tackle that played from 1987-91. ??Normally it?s either a Big Ten championship or Rose Bowl berth, national ranking for a national championship. It?s one versus two. Baring anything happening, it should be one versus two.
??We feel this anyway, it?s one versus the two all the time. To the winner goes the victors and the losers go the spoils. The best team in the country comes out of that anyway, but it is extra special this year because of the scenario.?
Conley, a former coach and player, said both teams have all the intangibles on offense and have great defense ? making them the top two teams in the country.
The week, for Conley, has dual meanings for him. In addition to coaching under Earle Bruce, John Cooper and Jim Tressel, he played for legendary coach Woody Hayes.
?One thing you find out is there?s two different seasons. There?s the preseason and Big Ten, that?s season one. Then there?s the Michigan game. That?s a season in itself,? Conley said. ?Playing for coach Hayes in those days, you practiced against the University of Michigan ? no matter who you were playing that week. You can?t quite do that anymore today with the talent so divided because of scholarship limits. It?s the reason you come to Ohio State ? to play in games like that. It?s the same reason you go to Michigan ? to play in ?The Game.?
?It?s the greatest rivalry in all of athletics ? not only college football.?
That week leading up to ?The Game? provides different traditions. Ask Graham.
?Even the band will come over. You get the opportunity to walk with a band member. If you?re one of the captains, you get a chance to dot the Is. I was afraid to dot the I (as a Sousaphone player), so I grabbed one of those little trumpets and walk with the trumpet players as we do ?Script Ohio? on the practice field.?
It?s all of those factors that go into this long-standing rivalry, especially when selling your respective university.
?You use that all the time in recruiting. It?s the same with Michigan. You only recruit the very best of the best,? Conley said. ?If a young man doesn?t want to compete in a game like that, you don?t want to recruit that guy anyway.?
When Michigan recruited former Akron Buchtel standout Ricky Powers, he also became one of these storied players in this legendary rivalry.
?There?s no better rivalry in the world. You can?t compare this to anything. I was blessed enough to be part of this,? he said.
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They aren't loud when they are 100k strong. I'm not too worried if there are an extra thousand or two northerners in the stadium.OmahaBeef;657224; said:
I would imagine OSU fans are buying a ton of those ebay tickets as well.
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Bleed S & G
Taking Crazy Pills
RE: turning the backs
how is this idea stupid? do you know what it would be like to come into the shoe expecting boos and then its dead silent.. what we should do is all bring in newspapers and when they come in everyone wips out a newspaper infront of their face..
you have all game and the start of the 2nd half to boo.. i guess my question is why not?
how is this idea stupid? do you know what it would be like to come into the shoe expecting boos and then its dead silent.. what we should do is all bring in newspapers and when they come in everyone wips out a newspaper infront of their face..
you have all game and the start of the 2nd half to boo.. i guess my question is why not?
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bucknut4life
even chuck norris fears laurinaitis
OmahaBeef;657224; said:
thats just more sad faces to see come 7pm saturday
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I've said it before but it bears repeating.
When some things are done in the bush leagues (or at high schools) and NOT in the majors (or at I-A football programs); then those things are CALLED bush league. "Bush League" is meant to identify any behavior that is simply not worthy of the largest stage. Turning your backs is bush.
When some things are done in the bush leagues (or at high schools) and NOT in the majors (or at I-A football programs); then those things are CALLED bush league. "Bush League" is meant to identify any behavior that is simply not worthy of the largest stage. Turning your backs is bush.
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Hey if you want to pull a cool crowd game do this:
Get Dick Vitale to the game under the pretense of doing some Duke-like shit such as the newspaper/back turn thing. He's a media whore so if he gets a chance he'll do it. 5 minutes of face time and some T-shirts made up and he can't resist. Then we go even further down the Duke trail and start passing him around on top of the crowd. Up to this point Vitale and ESPN are in heaven(while Woody rolls in his grave).
OK, once he's on top of the crowd we remind him this is The Ohio State University and The Game, not some Thursday night Big East bullshit, by continuing to pass his ass right on up to C deck and over the top of the fucking stadium right out on his bald, empty head.
Now you have a cool crowd game that a lot more than 8,000 people would probably be ok with.
Get Dick Vitale to the game under the pretense of doing some Duke-like shit such as the newspaper/back turn thing. He's a media whore so if he gets a chance he'll do it. 5 minutes of face time and some T-shirts made up and he can't resist. Then we go even further down the Duke trail and start passing him around on top of the crowd. Up to this point Vitale and ESPN are in heaven(while Woody rolls in his grave).
OK, once he's on top of the crowd we remind him this is The Ohio State University and The Game, not some Thursday night Big East bullshit, by continuing to pass his ass right on up to C deck and over the top of the fucking stadium right out on his bald, empty head.
Now you have a cool crowd game that a lot more than 8,000 people would probably be ok with.
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rocketman
flying low
Besides, the stadium wouldn't be "dead silent" because of the 7,000+ Michigan fans screaming their heads off when their team comes on the field.
We play Michigan this year? They're really good! Maybe we should all dress in the same color or do some kind of cheer that goes around the stadium, or be really loud or stand up the whole game. That would be really neat and original!
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We play Michigan this year? They're really good! Maybe we should all dress in the same color or do some kind of cheer that goes around the stadium, or be really loud or stand up the whole game. That would be really neat and original!
Next...
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I knew this shit was going to go too far as soon as we let Penn State get away with it. Now people are just dying to come up with the next "great" idea that the crowd can do to "scare" the opponent.
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JXC
17-4 since 2001
I wait 730 days every year to booo my head off as those a-holes enter The 'Shoe...I can't believe any true Buckeye fan would be okay with not having this. If you don't want to booo because you don't booo college kids, then that's fine, I respect that. But don't booo because you are trying to come up with the next gimmick. WE DONT NEED IT. Trust those of us who have been to this game before, silence won't work it will just make the crowd seem less impressive and quieter. Be loud...use the fact that this is one of the loudest stadiums in the country to the Buckeye's advantage!
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