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The "Can't Sell It" Rule Should Be Changed

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WaitingforKickoff;1840176; said:
You can't sell items that are legally yours? I thought this was America. You are supposed to be able to sell anything that you da[censored]mn own on the free market. T-shirts and jerseys are another issue because of copyrights and endorsement issues, but you can't even sell something that has explicitly been transferred into your possession? Gimme a breeeeaaak. Where are the trial lawyers?

Again, NCAA = $$$
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This was a pretty obvious violation.... passing blame to the NCAA for the players breaking rules makes the fanbase look bad.
 
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Systems_id;1840186; said:
Amateurism is college sports died a long time ago.
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I agree - circa 1870.

Read up on the recruiting and player "reimbursement" that was routine around the turn of the 20th century in college football. You might get a different perspective on our current problems. Plus ca change, and all that.
 
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3074326;1840214; said:
This was a pretty obvious violation.... passing blame to the NCAA for the players breaking rules makes the fanbase look bad.
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Just because the NCAA creates a rule doesn't mean it's the law of the land. It's a governing body for student athletes for christ sakes, not the freakin' Supreme Court. And as far as I'm concerned, anyone has the right to challenge the rules set by any governing body should it be deemed that the rules set by the governing body contravenes the spirit or letters of the law, creates unnecessary hardship, creates unequal labor relations, fosters monopoly over a particular competitive or labor market, or anything with similar themes.

And just because you are the NCAA doesn't mean you can throw PROPERTY RIGHTS of American citizens out the window.

If I'm not mistaken, the NCAA monopoly issues were brought to congressional hearings. So to respond to you, I simply don't understand why anyone would like to put the NCAA on a pedestal like that, and it makes us as fans of the sport look bad that we don't even dare to question things like this.
 
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WaitingforKickoff;1840227; said:
Just because the NCAA creates a rule doesn't mean it's the law of the land. It's a governing body for student athletes for christ sakes, not the freakin' Supreme Court. And as far as I'm concerned, anyone has the right to challenge the rules set by any governing body should it be deemed that the rules set by the governing body contravenes the spirit or letters of the law, creates unnecessary hardship, creates unequal labor relations, fosters monopoly over a particular competitive or labor market, or anything with similar themes.

And just because you are the NCAA doesn't mean you can throw PROPERTY RIGHTS of American citizens out the window.

If I'm not mistaken, the NCAA monopoly issues were brought to congressional hearings. So to respond to you, I simply don't understand why anyone would like to put the NCAA on a pedestal like that, and it makes us as fans of the sport look bad that we don't even dare to question things like this.
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I'm not going to get into a political debate with you. Why this is a rule has been discussed in this thread already. People would be buying things for millions of dollars just to get recruits to go to a certain school. Do you want that? Then get rid of this rule.

The rule is there for a reason, and it's a damn good reason. People are blaming the wrong people here. The players shouldn't have sold their stuff. It's an NCAA violation. I'm not putting them on a pedestal, I'm expecting our players to abide by their rules.

Do you have a problem with Cam Newton's dad trying to get money? Because if someone was offering you $200,000 to work at a certain place would you accept it? Yes. This is not the same world we're dealing with here. There are restrictions in place for the good of the game. The NCAA's punishment is a different story, however.
 
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3074326;1840230; said:
I'm not going to get into a political debate with you. Why this is a rule has been discussed in this thread already. People would be buying things for millions of dollars just to get recruits to go to a certain school. Do you want that? Then get rid of this rule.

The rule is there for a reason, and it's a damn good reason. People are blaming the wrong people here. The players shouldn't have sold their stuff. It's an NCAA violation. I'm not putting them on a pedestal, I'm expecting our players to abide by their rules.
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Oh, so you accuse me of making the fanbase look bad yet refuses to get into a debate with me regarding my contentions. That's all fine and dandy. Merry Christmas by the way.

Oh, and I never said I was in favor of people buying things for millions of dollars to buy kids to go to their school. In fact, I haven't got the slightest clue where you made the connection. But nice try.

Rules have been repealed before. Many rules have been repealed before. If you don't know that or don't believe that then I suggest you look them up yourself. No need to get all acrimonious by insinuating that anyone's embarrassing the fanbase for raising a simply contention.
 
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3074326;1840230; said:
People would be buying things for millions of dollars just to get recruits to go to a certain school. Do you want that?
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Ultimately, I don't really see the problem with this. If an athlete is worth that kind of money to someone, why restrain their ability to realize that value?

By now it should be obvious that I'm wildly free-market in my orientation. :lol:
 
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MaxBuck;1840232; said:
Ultimately, I don't really see the problem with this. If an athlete is worth that kind of money to someone, why restrain their ability to realize that value?

By now it should be obvious that I'm wildly free-market in my orientation. :lol:
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dont mention political terminologies like "free market", it'll offend him.
 
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Can someone explain to me how player apparel ownership works? When I was in college we were assigned uniforms, warm ups, etc., but all of that remained property of the school. They let me keep it when I graduated, but I while I was enrolled, those items needed to be turned in at the end of the season.

How does it work in D1 football? Does all the assigned equipment belong to the player? Just the outerwear? One of everything per season?
 
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I still think the current "rule" is BS. If you give someone something, its theirs to do with what they please. However, i also understand why the NCAA has the rule. Simple solution, dont give the players anything until they leave the school (graduation, NFL, drop out, etc.).
 
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