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The Big Unit to The Big Apple

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backhomeinohio said:
I hate to tell you but the run support for Pedro will be just as good as all the other guys the Mets had. I think the Mets starting rotation 1-4 had ERA's all in the mid 3's or low 4's. All those guys had .500 or so years.

My prediction is that Pedro doesn't get back those 5mph or so that he seems to have lost and now that he has to hit again he becomes a little more shy on the inside half than normal. Yeah there is no DH but the NL is a different league. He goes 14-8 or 13-9 and doesn't return to the Pedro of old. He should have stayed in Beantown and rode out his time left listening to "who's your daddy" several times a year and getting the chance to shut up a stadium FULL of Yankee fans, instead he chooses the almighty dollar and page 2 obscurity in Shea.
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Regardless of the run support he'll get in Shea, the Sox are going to miss him.
He won't shy away from the inside of the plate, and if you think having no dh won't make a difference, you're way off. No dh, ad pitchers to the lineup in a pitchers park and he'll be more than fine. Why the heck do you think all those turd Mets starters had mid3 and low 4 eras ? The Mets will still stink, but the bottom line is the Sox are going to miss Pedro, no matter what any Sox fan says. Show me the money Pedro.
 
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Reports today indicate that the Yanks and D-Sox have reopened talks regarding Randy Johnson in a direct deal: Vazquez and minor leaguers to Arizona for the Unit.

Since this isn't done yet, let me recap some other instances where the Yankees came close (but no cigar) to landing the big lefty:

1. July 31, 1993 Trade Deadline: the Yankees and Mariners agree in principle to trade Domingo Jean, Dave Silvestri and Bob Wickman to Seattle for Johnson.

Rumors abound about why this didn't go down. One says that George sided with his then-minor-league head, Bill Livesey, in saying that was too much to give up. Another says that then-Yankee GM Gene Michael discussed players with his pal, then-Seattle manager Lou Piniella, and while they agreed, then-Mariner GM Woody Woodward kept killing the permutations.

A third rumor said the deal was not finalized because the Mariners wanted at least one player from the group of Russ Davis, Sterling Hitchcock or Gerald Williams (Davis and Hitchcock would be used two years later by the Yankees to obtain Tino Martinez, Jeff Nelson and Jim Mecir from the Mariners).

2. Spring Training 1995: the financially strapped Mariners were told by ownership to move one major salary from among Chris Bosio, Edgar Martinez and Johnson. Bosio, due to poor performance, and Martinez, coming off of injury, were not marketable. So Johnson had to go, and the Yanks were calling. Except Piniella and Woodward convinced ownership to try one more time to win. The big lefty was kept, the Mariners made the playoffs for the first time and Johnson won Game 3 against the Yankees as a starter, and came back two days later to eliminate the Yanks with a Game 5 triumph, ending the Buck Showalter era.

3. Midway through the '98 Season: the Yanks were worried Cleveland was going to land Johnson and offered Seattle Hideki Irabu, Nick Johnson and Shane Spencer. Johnson surprisingly was traded to Houston.

So, in the words of a Yankee immortal: "It aint over till its over." I'll believe the deal is done when I see Johnson don the 'stripes.
 
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After Randy goes to the Yankees, will Brent/Sloopy continue to post such idiocy like the "D'backs are out to get the Yankees!"

Sloopy needs to change his icon to Keith Jackson as they both speak with similar leaps in logic.
 
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T-Bone: "Sloopy needs to change his icon to Keith Jackson as they both speak with similar leaps in logic."

If you think my logic's bad, have you read those posts from that a-hole scUM fan called halfdome? Now THAT's some effed up logic ..
 
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Sloopy45 said:
T-Bone: "Sloopy needs to change his icon to Keith Jackson as they both speak with similar leaps in logic."

If you think my logic's bad, have you read those posts from that a-hole scUM fan called halfdome? Now THAT's some effed up logic ..
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why would I care about some worthless scUM fan? :roll1:
 
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Finally a DONE DEAL.......

NEW YORK -- Randy Johnson and the New York Yankees reached a preliminary agreement Thursday on a $32 million, two-year contract extension, the Associated Press learned. The Big Unit waived his no-trade clause as part of the agreement, a baseball official and a person close to Johnson said on condition of anonymity. Arizona's trade with New York, which was tentatively agreed to last week, calls for the Diamondbacks to receive pitchers Javier Vazquez and Brad Halsey, catcher Dioner Navarro and $9 million

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/8073490


 
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Tibbs: "Gee, the D-backs didn't get that much in return for a Hall of Fame pitcher. About as much as the Red Sox gave up for Schilling. Care to explain that one, Brent?"

C'mon now. Here are the differences:

a.) Vazquez (though not equal value for Johnson) is WAY better than Casey Fossum. If Javy stays with AZ, he will go back to flourishing in the NL. And to be honest, if this was a year ago, the D-Backs would've JUMPED on this deal, and the perception of it would be that both sides got a good deal (at the time, anyway).

b.) Schilling had two teams on his list: the Yankees and the Phillies. Johnson had ONE team on his list: the Yankees. Where are the Red Sox in this whole mix? Arizona talked to Philly, never heard from the Yankees, and ended talking Schill into accepting the move to Boston.

c.) There was no leeway for Arizona WHATSOEVER. If Johnson would've accepted a trade to LA (or anywhere else, for that matter) then he wouldn't be in NY by a longshot.

Granted, I'm not defending this move whatsoever. The Yankees STOLE Johnson. But its a bit different from the Schilling trade. If Johnson had given the same leeway that Schilling did, he'd be wearing Dodger Blue right now.
 
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