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The 2020 College Football Season

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Zem said:
It seems like some folks are too anxious to send the already-exploited players into harm's way so they can have 3.5 hours per week of a diversion while watching safely from their home.
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I think everything changed when the University Presidents got to talking. They have a duty to the whole student body, the staff, and facility to try to make a safe environment. They can only control so much and football games even without fans creates alot of issues. Just look at the Sturgis motorcycle rally, if the state and local governments refuse to implement rules, you can have 250k people invade a town of 10k and put them all at risk.

If there is a big game, will people stay home or will they take over one of these college towns. The schools then have to deal with the aftermath. Columbus may be able to handle it but I think alot of power 5 schools might not be able to. Alot of college towns don't have the hospital infrastructure to deal with any of this.

Also there is still alot of limited resources and to feed those into a football program at the cost of the rest of the university doesn't make too much sense. The staff and facility of the universities are at much higher risk than the football players. If the football team takes PPE, cleaning supplies, and testing capacity to function, it has to be taken from somewhere else. How much testing does a football team need to stay safe, my bet is alot.

I think it's alot more complex than just keeping players safe. It's keeping players safe while not putting the rest of the university at higher risk.
 
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inliner311 said:
I think everything changed when the University Presidents got to talking. They have a duty to the whole student body, the staff, and facility to try to make a safe environment. They can only control so much and football games even without fans creates alot of issues. Just look at the Sturgis motorcycle rally, if the state and local governments refuse to implement rules, you can have 250k people invade a town of 10k and put them all at risk.

If there is a big game, will people stay home or will they take over one of these college towns. The schools then have to deal with the aftermath. Columbus may be able to handle it but I think alot of power 5 schools might not be able to. Alot of college towns don't have the hospital infrastructure to deal with any of this.

Also there is still alot of limited resources and to feed those into a football program at the cost of the rest of the university doesn't make too much sense. The staff and facility of the universities are at much higher risk than the football players. If the football team takes PPE, cleaning supplies, and testing capacity to function, it has to be taken from somewhere else. How much testing does a football team need to stay safe, my bet is alot.

I think it's alot more complex than just keeping players safe. It's keeping players safe while not putting the rest of the university at higher risk.
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My problem is how the decision appears to have been made. Essentially everyone figured to try to make it work then the MAC goes. We ill have no fans and no big conference paydays? Nah we're out it's not worth it for all the money we are going to lose this season.. Then next thing you know everyone is panicked their plans from before seem to be tossed out the window all because someone none of them were playing anyways cancelled. Either have the balls to cancel on your own or the balls to at least try your plans for a few weeks. Don't cancel everything cause a conference that literally makes it bread off of playing big time schools cancels in a season it's not allowed to do that. In all this mess of overaction you're letting the freaking MAC who made their decision last based on the financial realities of 3 of the big conferences going conference only 2 going 1 extra game only and no or little fan attendence as much as covid dictate your decision for you. If they had actually tried to make their plans work for the next 2 weeks then said nope not going to work or even given to the start of september and pushed back their seasons and tried I'd respect it. If they had decided to call it off a month ago before they started I'd respect it. But to try for a day or two then call it off cause of what the MAC did is laughable.
 
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College football stars hold video call to further unite, issue statement

Some of the biggest stars in college football believe the time has come to organize and create a more powerful voice for players in their sport.

In a matter of hours Sunday night, a dozen college football players from all five major conferences came together to create a joint statement that expressed their desire to play the 2020 season and shared items they feel need to be addressed to ensure a safe and fair environment for student-athletes moving forward. The unprecedented national push for unity comes as one tumultuous week in college sports bleeds into another that threatens to bring more significant change.

In a statement released on social media just before midnight on Sunday and shared by dozens of college players, the group asked for uniform health and safety protocols for dealing with the coronavirus pandemic and laid out their intentions to form a college football players association in the future. The statement also said players should have the chance to opt out of the upcoming football season and that they should be guaranteed another year of eligibility whether they play this season or not.


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The players organized a Zoom call within an hour that included players from teams across all five major conferences. Players on the call included Lawrence, Boles, Rencher, Alabama running back Najee Harris, Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields, Oklahoma State running back Chuba Hubbard, Oregon's Penei Sewell, Johnny Johnson III, Jevon Holland and Kayvon Thibodeaux, Utah's Nick Ford, Washington State's Dallas Hobbs and Michigan's Hunter Reynolds.

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...anize-hold-call-further-unite-issue-statement

 
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It's over. My educated assumption is that the B10 will delay this week in a bid to have a uniform, consensus announcement from all the P5 conferences. If they can't get that--and everyone knows that the SEC will hold out until half their teams are infected--then I'd guess that the B1G (and our little brother out West) will pull the plug on the season by early next week.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
It's over. My educated assumption is that the B10 will delay this week in a bid to have a uniform, consensus announcement from all the P5 conferences. If they can't get that--and everyone knows that the SEC will hold out until half their teams are infected--then I'd guess that the B1G (and our little brother out West) will pull the plug on the season by early next week.
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this is probably correct.
The “we want to play” movement put a serious pause in their plans but they’ll let that momentum die down then announce
 
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ScriptOhio said:
College football stars hold video call to further unite, issue statement

Some of the biggest stars in college football believe the time has come to organize and create a more powerful voice for players in their sport.

In a matter of hours Sunday night, a dozen college football players from all five major conferences came together to create a joint statement that expressed their desire to play the 2020 season and shared items they feel need to be addressed to ensure a safe and fair environment for student-athletes moving forward. The unprecedented national push for unity comes as one tumultuous week in college sports bleeds into another that threatens to bring more significant change.

In a statement released on social media just before midnight on Sunday and shared by dozens of college players, the group asked for uniform health and safety protocols for dealing with the coronavirus pandemic and laid out their intentions to form a college football players association in the future. The statement also said players should have the chance to opt out of the upcoming football season and that they should be guaranteed another year of eligibility whether they play this season or not.


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The players organized a Zoom call within an hour that included players from teams across all five major conferences. Players on the call included Lawrence, Boles, Rencher, Alabama running back Najee Harris, Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields, Oklahoma State running back Chuba Hubbard, Oregon's Penei Sewell, Johnny Johnson III, Jevon Holland and Kayvon Thibodeaux, Utah's Nick Ford, Washington State's Dallas Hobbs and Michigan's Hunter Reynolds.

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...anize-hold-call-further-unite-issue-statement

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As it relates to the tweet about the media chasing the wrong story and the real story being about the AD's not wanting to see the players unite/unionize...this is very interesting.

Over indexing in the short term and cancelling a season may be the spark that causes exactly what they are afraid of.

These kids aren't stupid and they know they have some power, if they can harness it. We know for sure they want to play.

This is finally somewhat interesting to me. Not just watching a slow and predictable train wreck unfold.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
As it relates to the tweet about the media chasing the wrong story and the real story being about the AD's not wanting to see the players unite/unionize...this is very interesting.

Over indexing in the short term and cancelling a season may be the spark that causes exactly what they are afraid of.

These kids aren't stupid and they know they have some power, if they can harness it. We know for sure they want to play.

This is finally somewhat interesting to me. Not just watching a slow and predictable train wreck unfold.
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Yeah this is getting pretty fascinating. Hadn’t heard about the fears of player unionization before.
 
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Systems_id said:
Yeah this is getting pretty fascinating. Hadn’t heard about the fears of player unionization before.
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Like I said before, these players sign waivers acknowledging they could die playing football, but a virus is the straw that broke the camel's back?

Also, what does this do to scholarship numbers next year? Are seniors granted another season? If so, do scholarship numbers increase?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
As it relates to the tweet about the media chasing the wrong story and the real story being about the AD's not wanting to see the players unite/unionize...this is very interesting.

Over indexing in the short term and cancelling a season may be the spark that causes exactly what they are afraid of.

These kids aren't stupid and they know they have some power, if they can harness it. We know for sure they want to play.

This is finally somewhat interesting to me. Not just watching a slow and predictable train wreck unfold.
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I really think, as much as the school presidents might have legit concerns about liability as it relates to COVID, they are equally and possibly more fearful of opening up the veil on amateurism regarding football and basketball. The united statement last night I believe is what seals the deal on the season getting cancelled. If the players had kept it "unorganized" and along with coaches and possibly ADs pushed their schools hard individually behind the scenes I think positive forward momentum could have been made on allaying COVID fears. Maybe not enough to keep it from getting cancelled eventually, but enough to keep it from being a sudden domino toppling based on the MAC and lower level conference announcements. Doing it publicly the players may force their hand in pausing for a day or two, but I think it gets cancelled pretty quick now because they recognize what this message push means outside of the COVID situation and that scares them. As it relates to COVID, I think opening in-person instruction makes their position on cancelling harder to believe from a broad perspective (at a micro level I understand the concerns with football specifically, and do agree with some/most of them).
 
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