Can’t wait for the arguments on the TV about whether a 3-0 SEC team should make the playoff.
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ScriptOhio
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According to a letter sent Thursday to Big Ten athletic directors by commissioner Kevin Warren and Chris Kratochvil, the chair of the conference's task force for emerging infectious diseases, a decision on whether preseason camp will begin as currently scheduled will be made “within the next 5 days.“
“We will not, and cannot, proceed with preseason camp until we are certain that we can do so safely and that will depend, in part, on testing,” the letter states. “Once we have everything in place to execute our testing protocols effectively, including the appropriate number of tests secured for all fall sports, we can make a decision as to whether preseason camp will begin as currently scheduled.”
Per Thursday's letter, the Big Ten remains “hopeful to compete this fall in men's and women's cross country, field hockey, football, men's and women's soccer, and women's volleyball, understanding that we must operate in a manner that seeks to address the challenges that COVID-19 presents.” The letter also states, though, that health and safety remains the conference's “primary focus,” and that fall sports could still be canceled if the conference is not confident they can be played safely.
“If we determine as a Conference that it is not prudent to compete in the fall of 2020, we will not do so, much like our decision in March 2020 to cancel the Men's Basketball Tournament in Indianapolis,” the letter states. “Our final decision will be rooted in guidance from medical experts and in consultation with institutional leadership, student-athletes, coaches and appropriate federal, state, and local authorities.”
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While I agree this is a distinct possibility, I'm sure I'm in the minority when I say that it probably shouldn't be.
So many people are so sure that we are either going to hell in a handbasket or that we've already arrived; the truth is that the biggest danger of a season isn't to the players, it's to the people that the players come in contact with. There are ways of limiting the contact that players have with other people. Make the locker rooms player-only for this season; ensure they take all on-line classes, etc.
To say that the risk to the players is small is an understatement at this point and the weekly graph by the CDC proves it:
The 0-24 year old line is the light blue one at the bottom that you can barely see. Two thirds of those deaths were infants. And this during a time when people in that age range have been having COVID parties and generally behaving as if everything is normal.
Meanwhile, thousands (yes, thousands) of people in that age range died in car accidents during the time in question. If we aren't in a rush to make the age to get a driver's license 25 (no, I'm not suggesting that), then why are we going to insist that the risk be made zero for COVID?
Even though there are ways of sequestering the teams (Soccer seems to have managed it) and thus protecting those who really are at risk, I would not at all be surprised if everyone loses their damn minds when there's one positive test by someone who could kick COVID's ass with half his immune system tied behind his back.
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While I agree this is a distinct possibility, I'm sure I'm in the minority when I say that it probably shouldn't be.
So many people are so sure that we are either going to hell in a handbasket or that we've already arrived; the truth is that the biggest danger of a season isn't to the players, it's to the people that the players come in contact with. There are ways of limiting the contact that players have with other people. Make the locker rooms player-only for this season; ensure they take all on-line classes, etc.
To say that the risk to the players is small is an understatement at this point and the weekly graph by the CDC proves it:
The 0-24 year old line is the light blue one at the bottom that you can barely see. Two thirds of those deaths were infants. And this during a time when people in that age range have been having COVID parties and generally behaving as if everything is normal.
Meanwhile, thousands (yes, thousands) of people in that age range died in car accidents during the time in question. If we aren't in a rush to make the age to get a driver's license 25 (no, I'm not suggesting that), then why are we going to insist that the risk be made zero for COVID?
Even though there are ways of sequestering the teams (Soccer seems to have managed it) and thus protecting those who really are at risk, I would not at all be surprised if everyone loses their damn minds when there's one positive test by someone who could kick COVID's ass with half his immune system tied behind his back.
On the whole I agree with you. The problem is the issue is going to be decided by people whose first priority is not getting sued and/or good PR.
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So right. The litigious nature of our culture is a nuisance at the best of times, but during something like this, it's ruinous.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Barring any changes, the ACC is starting the same week as the Big Ten. Most of the Big XII will probably do the same, save for a few games in week zero. The Pac 12 is starting the weekend of September 12.
The start of the college football season is basically a 10-day holiday, beginning with some random kickoffs during week zero. Then comes the full slate of week one games, beginning on Thursday and ending Monday night.
The Big XII is expected to get things started with a few games in week zero (late August), and while that will certainly be nice to see and experience given our current state of bubble living, the Big Ten could really make some hay and get themselves in front of more eyeballs than ever the following week.
Part of my suggestion for the Big Ten is for them to take over week one with games from Thursday night to Monday night.
It doesn’t make sense for the Big Ten to compete against itself for ratings, so why not spread the schedule out in week one?
How does this sound for you:
On Thursday (Sept. 3), Indiana opens at Wisconsin. These two teams were supposed to meet on September 4, so asking them to move everything up by one game shouldn’t be a huge issue.
On Friday, it’s Minnesota at Illinois. No, it’s not a marquee game, but what Friday games are? Plus, both of these teams had games scheduled for this date, so their scheduling plans wouldn’t be altered at all.
And if you put both of those games on the Big Ten Network, you’ll get a bunch of viewers and secure some nice ad revenue to make up for some of the ticket revenue lost.
On Saturday, it will be up to the television partners, but I could see Ohio State at Michigan State kicking off FOX’s Big Noon Saturday. Then a palate cleanser with Rutgers at Maryland at 3:30 on BTN. An evening affair with Nebraska at Northwestern would finish the Saturday slate.
Sunday would be a nice Big Ten West matchup with Iowa at Purdue. Monday would then be the biggest night of week one with Penn State opening at Michigan under the lights. Or play it during the day, it doesn’t really matter since it’s Labor Day and we’ll all be home anyway.
In this layout, all seven Big Ten games have their own time slot. They wouldn't be sharing with anybody else in the conference. There is no cannibalization of viewers for the Big Ten.
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Fuck Friday and Sunday games. I could give a shit about "cannibalization of viewers for the Big Ten." You have ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox, and BTN to cover games on Saturday. I think even the shittiest B1G games (e.g., Rutgers vs Maryland) get broadcast (likely on the BTN alternate channel).
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bukIpower
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Maybe this has been brought up but I really think the B1G needs to consider bubbles.
MLB isnt doing that and is failing.
NHL and NBA is and is doing well so far.
B1G should have hubs in Minneapolis and Indy so we can have a season. I have no doubt if we go with the MLB route we probably have issues.
MLB isnt doing that and is failing.
NHL and NBA is and is doing well so far.
B1G should have hubs in Minneapolis and Indy so we can have a season. I have no doubt if we go with the MLB route we probably have issues.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Pac-12 player group threatens to opt out, makes list of demands on injustice, safety
A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools is threatening to opt out of both preseason camps and games until its negotiations with the league regarding concerns about racial injustice, their safety during the coronavirus pandemic and other demands are completed.
A text message obtained by ESPN says the group's goal is to "obtain a written contract with the Pac- 12 that legally ensures we are offered the following protections and benefits."
The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance.
People familiar with the group's mission told ESPN that the central issue it wants to address with the league and its schools is racial injustice.
The players plan to make a public "statement of unity" and a list of their demands as early as Sunday through traditional and social media.
The Pac-12 said in a statement Saturday that it had yet to hear from the group.
"Neither the Conference nor our university athletics departments have been contacted by this group regarding these topics," a Pac-12 statement said. "We support our student-athletes using their voice and have regular communications with our student-athletes at many different levels on a range of topics. As we have clearly stated with respect to our fall competition plans, we are, and always will be, directed by medical experts, with the health, safety and well being of our student athletes, coaches and staff always the first priority. We have made it clear that any student athlete who chooses not to return to competition for health or safety reasons will have their scholarship protected."
Ramogi Huma, the founder and president of the National College Players Association, is assisting the players in organizing the potential boycott, sources told ESPN. Huma, a former linebacker at UCLA, has been an advocate of college athletes' rights.
A staff member at a Pac-12 football program told ESPN that the movement is "real" and involves potentially hundreds of players.
A UCLA player contacted by ESPN said Bruins team leaders planned to meet and discuss the potential boycott Saturday.
Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...atens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety
A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools is threatening to opt out of both preseason camps and games until its negotiations with the league regarding concerns about racial injustice, their safety during the coronavirus pandemic and other demands are completed.
A text message obtained by ESPN says the group's goal is to "obtain a written contract with the Pac- 12 that legally ensures we are offered the following protections and benefits."
The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance.
People familiar with the group's mission told ESPN that the central issue it wants to address with the league and its schools is racial injustice.
The players plan to make a public "statement of unity" and a list of their demands as early as Sunday through traditional and social media.
The Pac-12 said in a statement Saturday that it had yet to hear from the group.
"Neither the Conference nor our university athletics departments have been contacted by this group regarding these topics," a Pac-12 statement said. "We support our student-athletes using their voice and have regular communications with our student-athletes at many different levels on a range of topics. As we have clearly stated with respect to our fall competition plans, we are, and always will be, directed by medical experts, with the health, safety and well being of our student athletes, coaches and staff always the first priority. We have made it clear that any student athlete who chooses not to return to competition for health or safety reasons will have their scholarship protected."
Ramogi Huma, the founder and president of the National College Players Association, is assisting the players in organizing the potential boycott, sources told ESPN. Huma, a former linebacker at UCLA, has been an advocate of college athletes' rights.
A staff member at a Pac-12 football program told ESPN that the movement is "real" and involves potentially hundreds of players.
A UCLA player contacted by ESPN said Bruins team leaders planned to meet and discuss the potential boycott Saturday.
Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...atens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety
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bukIpower
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I understand not the political forum but what the hell is this...
1. Understandable
2. Um how can a college football conference fight injustice and what specifically is wanted?
3. You can't get paid so forget that.
4. Too late. COVID has already closed some sports at Stanford.
5. Long term benefits? As student athletes you're there 4 years and as such you should get 4 years insurance.
This list is ridiculous and I really hope they only get #1 on that list and maybe #2. If #2 was defined with an objective okay I can see that too but simply saying fighting racial injustice is not good enough. As it stands the rest literally isn't possible.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
This is a demand that I don't see going anywhere; everybody including Larry Scott take a big pay cut:
II. Protect All Sports
Preserve All Existing Sports by Eliminating Excessive Expenditures
- Larry Scott, administrators, and coaches to voluntarily and drastically reduce excessive pay.
- End performance/academic bonuses.
- End lavish facility expenditures and use some endowment funds to preserve all sports.*
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/pac-12-players-covid-19-statement-football-season
The interesting fact that I can't find in the articles is who were the players (i.e. exact % of the PAC-12 football players) that that signed the letter.
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