You know you really fucked up bigly if you can make Pat Forde not look like a douche while he's talking shit to you
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CincyInterloper
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I personally would like to know what exactly the Cincinnati athletic department knew about Sorsby’s gambling and when they knew it. I’m not one to shit on my alma mater, but I don’t think they should get a pass just because he entered the portal before the story broke. I hope President Neville Pinto is looking into this behind the scenes, but I‘m guessing he plans to let that sleeping dog lie.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
I had an interesting chance meeting yesterday. I crossed paths with the dad of one of TTUs basketball players. Suffice it to say, a starter... dad wasn't just talking his kid up. The kid is likely going to be drafted.
Anyhow, sharing that background as this guy knows a LOT of people in the AD, including Hocutt... well. His perspective, and in general, I agree, was (paraphrasing in my words), "Kids do stupid things, (I'd) like to think that there's opportunities for second chances, but there has to be consequences for the choices he made. A 2-game suspension is not a 'consequence' in line with what he did."
I didn't dive into much beyond that as the conversation steered to the fact that his son had / has a casual friendly relationship with Sorsby as many athletes are tight having lived in the bubble of D1 athletics. After this all came out, kid and dad spoke about it. Apparently Sorsby shot him some text messages about putting a few extra in the bucket against the Bearcats. When dad heard that he asked to verify all the communications between them. I imagine that he has full documentation and records of those communications in a CYA folder. Anyhow, this is all to say, from my first hand discussion, it does not seem as though everyone at TTU is interested in carrying the water for this chump and the mess he created for everyone down there.
Candidly, for everyone involved -- and that includes US as fans of CFB -- the fact that Sorsby is going into the supplemental is a very good thing. We do not want this blight in CFB. Y'all can take him in the NFL if ya want... The Commissioner will protect the shield. Right now, there's nobody looking out for CFB or college athletics in general.
Anyhow, sharing that background as this guy knows a LOT of people in the AD, including Hocutt... well. His perspective, and in general, I agree, was (paraphrasing in my words), "Kids do stupid things, (I'd) like to think that there's opportunities for second chances, but there has to be consequences for the choices he made. A 2-game suspension is not a 'consequence' in line with what he did."
I didn't dive into much beyond that as the conversation steered to the fact that his son had / has a casual friendly relationship with Sorsby as many athletes are tight having lived in the bubble of D1 athletics. After this all came out, kid and dad spoke about it. Apparently Sorsby shot him some text messages about putting a few extra in the bucket against the Bearcats. When dad heard that he asked to verify all the communications between them. I imagine that he has full documentation and records of those communications in a CYA folder. Anyhow, this is all to say, from my first hand discussion, it does not seem as though everyone at TTU is interested in carrying the water for this chump and the mess he created for everyone down there.
Candidly, for everyone involved -- and that includes US as fans of CFB -- the fact that Sorsby is going into the supplemental is a very good thing. We do not want this blight in CFB. Y'all can take him in the NFL if ya want... The Commissioner will protect the shield. Right now, there's nobody looking out for CFB or college athletics in general.
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Jagdaddy
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Re: the commissioner protecting the shield, I’d be astounded if Sorsby isn’t blackballed from the NFL, although likely silently behind the scenes to avoid a lawsuit. The NFL is probably the third most venal major entity in sports (behind FIFA and the IOC), but I don’t think they’ll take any risk on this guy.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
This is 100% my guess, as well. I'm not sure that it will be explicit, but there's clearly a few spots that _could_ make sense. I'm wondering if Goodell doesn't quietly pick up the phone and have an off-the-record conversation with teams' ownership on this point.
Crikies, I don't think that even the Browns would touch that mess. So, 100% going to happen.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Just sayin': I'd be totally shocked if the Juggalos actually self reported any NCAA violations here.
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I feel like CFB is better served by anything that speeds up the inevitable "next" phase, to mean post NCAA so in a longer game kind of way I kind of wish TT would have gone all the way.
I have zero worries that this guy would be throwing games or shaving points with the microscope he'd be under.
Not sure why any institution would.Just sayin': I'd be totally shocked if the Juggalos actually self reported any NCAA violations here.
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CincyInterloper
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Athletic Director Cunningham: "Yes, sir. And... we'll interface with the NCAA on this, uh, gambling issue."
President Pinto: "No! No. God, no. We don't want those idiots bumbling around in this. Tell Sorsby to hit the transfer portal. Get rid of him."
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No one EVER gets over “gambling addiction.”
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
CFB or in the NFL for that matter.
I have mixed emotions about that 'next phase' thing. I mean, it's eventually going to happen... but I guess I'm in favor of it being a little more graceful than a trainwreck... but yeah, call a spade a spade, right? It's nearing horse abortion levels as it is right now.
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I disagree. I know someone who has. Although you can say his was an unconventional version of it. He was in finance and gambled through his by impulsively "betting" on the riskiest investments. He realized that the way he operated at work was the same way a guy at the race track would bet on horses and got help at a gambling anonymous group. Basically, he said that he had no motivation to work unless the threat of losing everything was always lingering in the background, but now he no longer works in that manner and has secure investments set up for the rest of his life while still being motivated to work without unnecessary reckless risk. He also said he has been able to settle down, marry and have children since working on his gambling impulses because before he did he could never get married because he was always worried in the back of his mind that "he could do better" so he couldn't commit. I thinkgetting help, which led to him having a family, has helped him with his gambling impulses.
But I do agree it's very difficult for people to kick this addiction and is pretty rare to overcome. But I wouldn't say that people never get over it either.
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