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It's so disingenuous to call it recruiting anymore in cfb. It's just bidding at this point
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billmac91
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I actually don’t mind it all….its about finding kids that fit your roster.
If a 17/18 year old wants to chase $200K/$300K in Lubbock over career development, there’s a good chance it wasn’t a good fit….at least for OSU.
I’ve had plenty of knocks on Day, but one thing that’s always been impressive, is the caliber of kids he’s bringing in.
They seem to have really struck the right balance between NIL $$$ but also NFL development which is worth significantly more over the course of a career.
If a 17/18 year old wants to chase $200K/$300K in Lubbock over career development, there’s a good chance it wasn’t a good fit….at least for OSU.
I’ve had plenty of knocks on Day, but one thing that’s always been impressive, is the caliber of kids he’s bringing in.
They seem to have really struck the right balance between NIL $$$ but also NFL development which is worth significantly more over the course of a career.
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THIS!
This is my exact thoughts as well. Fans get angry when kids take massive amounts to go to random schools, that's fine. OSU/Day have shown that they are going to find the guys that want to be Buckeyes, and he rewards them(the main example being no starters transferring). We can revisit this 2026 TTU class in 2-3yrs, but something tells me they're not going to be much better than they've been in the past. Even though there isn't really a salary cap, there actually is. These donors won't spend the same amount of money every single year. If TTU doesn't win an NC(or even the Big 12) in the next 2-3yrs, that money will slowly dry up(I'd put USC in the same sentence as TTU right now, money drys up if USC doesn't win big in 2-3yrs). Just like it has at aTm and at Miami. Oregon is literally being propped up by 1 man who's on borrowed time. Without Uncle Phil, Oregon comes crashing back to earth.
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This "want to be Buckeyes" thing is getting overdone.
It's being used to like a pejorative, as if the kids who take extra money to go elsewhere had a character flaw. It's the same as saying "we didn't want the 5 star guy, give me the 3 star that wants to be here" back in the pre NIL days.
Nonsense. Your coach wanted the talent or he wouldn't have offered and recruited. Same with NIL, if they aren't the right fit, why were we recruiting/bidding in the first place? It's the same kid you were just bidding on before that last dollar amount.
I like a little more self honesty in my coffee. We're losing more and more of these kind of recruits. What's changing, are we changing with it? Etc etc etc. There are near zero rules in this game so it's very fluid. Thinking what you did previously will keep working going forward without fail is a recipe for disaster.
It's being used to like a pejorative, as if the kids who take extra money to go elsewhere had a character flaw. It's the same as saying "we didn't want the 5 star guy, give me the 3 star that wants to be here" back in the pre NIL days.
Nonsense. Your coach wanted the talent or he wouldn't have offered and recruited. Same with NIL, if they aren't the right fit, why were we recruiting/bidding in the first place? It's the same kid you were just bidding on before that last dollar amount.
I like a little more self honesty in my coffee. We're losing more and more of these kind of recruits. What's changing, are we changing with it? Etc etc etc. There are near zero rules in this game so it's very fluid. Thinking what you did previously will keep working going forward without fail is a recipe for disaster.
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My point to "wanting to be Buckeyes" is more to the fact that its been proven time and time again that OSU hasn't been the highest bidder with most of their recruits. So what would you call the reason for them choosing the Buckeyes if money wasn't it? I think there are still some kids that will take less to go to schools and play in systems that they prefer.
I look at it just as honest as you, but OSU isn't out bidding many teams. And their strategy has continued to be to get the kids who they land(not sure how you want to refer to that), and pay the guys on their roster handsomely who perform. I'm not saying the kids who go elsewhere are in any way poor character, but they are guys who in the end OSU knows won't land. Their offer is their offer, if you turn it down, you didn't want to be a Buckeye, if you take the offer then you want to be a Buckeye.
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I wasn't calling you out individually. I do see quite a few comments on here that read, essentially, "good kid if he comes here, bad kid/didn't want him if he just wants the money" kind of nonsense.
Interpreting intent aside, the firm price take it or leave it model has seemed to have had a lot more players of very high quality, that OSU most certainly wanted, leave it/choose not to be a Buckeye this recruiting cycle.
We won't know how good or bad this class is for a couple of years and by then it's too late. Outside of WR, I think it's fair to have questions about the NIL policy in the current cycle? That's just me asking, I don't follow it anywhere near as close as I used to.
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billmac91
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I don’t think it’s necessarily want to be a “Buckeye”. It’s more of, want to be a part of the culture that’s been built at OSU. I’m not trying to split hairs, just making the point if the culture Day has built was at another university, that university would be crushing it on the recruiting trail as well.
OSU has proven itself to be the premier school for NFL development with UGA. UGA also continues to clean up in recruiting as Kirby Smart runs what I’d consider a comparable pipeline to NFL with additional benefit of on campus driving privileges.
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Are we or are we not one of the biggest spenders in college football ? Allegedly 35M plus. We're certainly getting our asses kicked this recruiting cycle compared to past years. Although December is a bit aways. I hope their strategy works long term but I can see this cutting a couple different ways.
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