Teen Sues Over Confederate Flag Dress

[tibor75]

Both are protected....from censorship by the GOVERNMENT. Private people are free to do what they want (within limits). I seriously doubt UPitt would let me work wearing a confederate flag pin.

 

[AKAK]

Both are protected....from censorship by the GOVERNMENT.

That's what I meant.

 

[JCOSU86]

...now if she had walked in there saying how she was going to kill blacks and how much she hated minorities...

I believe it can be argued that she IS doing that by wearing that dress. The crux of the matter is this: Is hateful speech protected by the 5th Amendment?

 

[iambrutus]

I believe it can be argued that she IS doing that by wearing that dress. The crux of the matter is this: Is hateful speech protected by the 5th Amendment?

shes a fucking redneck, and probably has no clue what the civil war was. to her its probably just pretty colors! i really dont think that she is educated enough to be able to silently project hatred. Now i dont know if she walked in there and was running her mouth about how the white race is superior and all that, but the topic of discussion is her dress, and what im saying is that its JUST A DRESS

 

[AKAK]

Is hateful speech protected by the 5th Amendment?

Its protected by some Amendment or other.


But not at school.

 

[JohnnyCockfight]

Now if she wore the dress because she supports a legitimate confederate issue like states' rights, then I would have no problem with it. But my money is on her wearing it because she doesn't like the black man.

The school should be able to do this--it's not like she was caught by surprise--she was previously informed it would not be allowed. This would suggest she had been bragging about the dress and her intentions beforehand and I find it hard to believe that she could find no other dress, as the story says.

A school full of gang problems wouldn't allow groups to come to a dance wearing their red and blue, and I think that's probably a good idea. So is what happened here.

 

[AKAK]

a legitimate confederate issue like states' rights

except that lots of people interpret "states rights" as code for "Jim Crow"... so you don't get a lot further down the racism food chain that way either.

 

[strohs]

Fact of the matter is, the school is right.
If she was told before hand not to wear it, shes shit outta luck.
I went to a catholic HS and there were dresses that our girls were not allowed to wear, and (supposedly) would not be admitted to the dance.
Supposedly because I don't think anyone was dumb enough to try it.
I dont care the reason why the dress was deemed unacceptable, but it was deemed unacceptable.
She has no leg to stand on.

 

[stxbuck]

Schools are basically a non-free speech zone. The Supreme Court has ruled that the school can censor student newspapers, and courts have upheld student dress codes,etc. I'd just like to see that stupid cow have enough guts to wear that dress at a school with more than 10 black students. Personally, I think wearing a confederate flag is about as white trash as it gets, especially in a state that stayed in the UNION!!!

 

[Jake]

LEXINGTON, Ky. (Dec. 22) -- A teenager is suing her school district for barring her from the prom last spring because she was wearing a dress styled as a large Confederate battle flag.

The lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. District Court claims the Greenup County district and administrators violated Jacqueline Duty's First Amendment right to free speech and her right to celebrate her heritage at predominantly white Russell High School's prom May 1. She also is suing for defamation, false imprisonment and assault.

"Her only dance for her senior prom was on the sidewalk to a song playing on the radio," said her lawyer, Earl-Ray Neal.

Of course her attorney had three first names. Was Billy-Ray Jimbob unavailable? I wonder if Miss Duty's related to April Vickery?

 

[Jaxbuck]

The rebel flag is going the way of the swastika in terms of being on the edge of the envelope.

I'm always very leery of how we go about suppressing unpopular speech/opinions.

Person to person is one thing. The problem is when the government starts legislating it.

 

[Onebuckfan]

It’s against the law to dislike someone..boy hope I can bail out.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

The rebel flag is going the way of the swastika in terms of being on the edge of the envelope.

I'm always very leery of how we go about suppressing unpopular speech/opinions.

Person to person is one thing. The problem is when the government starts legislating it.

Agree on being leery of the cancel culture and suppression. Especially by the government.

The problem with rebel flag supporters who also claim to be patriotic is the subtle fact that the confederates actually were very Un-American to the point that they wanted to break away and form their own nation.

 

[JCOSU86]

Since this was brought up again, I want to say this:

In every other rebellion I have ever read about that was defeated, the leaders were executed or imprisoned for life. IN EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Save, the Civil War. Lincoln wanted forgiveness to "bind the Nation's Wounds". It could not have been politically motivated, the southerners were not voting for him and the northerners would be pissed. And how did the south repay him? By hating him and vilifying him to this day.

Fuck the south.

 

[JCOSU86]

Ok, it's a goddamned Monday and I'm in a mood

They piss and moan all the time about how the Union army devastated them. I'm mostly reminded about Sherman. But you know what? The U.S. bombed Germany back to the Stone Age. Bombing Dresden was a fucking war crime. But do you hear Germans saying "fuck Roosevelt"? or call WWII "The War of American Aggression"? Nope, they manned up, took the goddamned blame and moved on. But not the south. It's really hard for me to have any empathy for them.