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Surround sound...think of all those speakers(5) as voices talking at one time. Like at a party. Lots of noise and distortion. And your just not going to get much quality unless you spend thousands of dollars and have a pro install the whole deal.
A simpler system is always better. Fewer voices.
$1000 bucks won't buy you much.
You need to hear what speakers sound like to make any sort of intelligent buying decision.

Read Brothers in Charleston,SC has quality stuff.
Upstairs Audio in Columbia also has quality stuff.
 
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Taosman;1041068; said:
Surround sound...think of all those speakers(5) as voices talking at one time. Like at a party. Lots of noise and distortion. And your just not going to get much quality unless you spend thousands of dollars and have a pro install the whole deal.
A simpler system is always better. Fewer voices.
$1000 bucks won't buy you much.
You need to hear what speakers sound like to make any sort of intelligent buying decision.

Read Brothers in Charleston,SC has quality stuff.
Upstairs Audio in Columbia also has quality stuff.
You lost me there Taos. If you're talking about pushing 2 channel music through a surround system then I agree, but this thread is about a home theater surround sound system. DVD's are mixed for surround sound, same experience as you get in a movie theater. I think the voices you hear may not be coming from your stereo. :wink2:
 
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A decent system can be had for a little over $1000.

I put together a JBL speaker system with a HK receiver for a little over $1000.

Those home theater in a box systems suck for sound and connectivity. That includes the overpriced Bose systems.

A couple of things to keep in mind...don't go small on the front speakers if you don't have to. Being able to get lower frequency in the front is nice. It can also eliminate the need for a subwoofer, or you can set up your woofer to work with them.

For the rear, I went with the JBL Balcony speakers. This is mainly due to the fact my couch is against the wall and I needed something to mount on the wall. They only run about $150 for a pair, and I have been happy with them. Much better than the tiny little speakers you typically see, yet still small enough to mount on the wall.

Also, with the receiver I didn't buy the one that will knock your windows out, but if you are like me and use it mostly for tv and movies that is not needed. Yet HDMI hookup is really nice, and the setup is really easy even for novices.

Unless you are a devout audiophile, a system at around $1000 to $1500 can be had with good results. My only suggestion is stay away from the HT in a box setups. I found their "recievers" lacking tons of connectivity and a bunch of other things I won't go into.

A few suggestions for budget conscience people:

Onkyo or Harmon Kardon receiver.
JBL or Infinity speakers.

All of them have different levels, but for the most part quality stuff. You can piece together a really good system over the internet for a pretty good price, and they will blow away those HTIB systems.
 
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Taosman;1041068; said:
Surround sound...think of all those speakers(5) as voices talking at one time. Like at a party. Lots of noise and distortion. And your just not going to get much quality unless you spend thousands of dollars and have a pro install the whole deal.
A simpler system is always better. Fewer voices.
$1000 bucks won't buy you much.
You need to hear what speakers sound like to make any sort of intelligent buying decision.

Read Brothers in Charleston,SC has quality stuff.
Upstairs Audio in Columbia also has quality stuff.

For home theater voices only come out of specific speakers (most of the time the front one, depending on how the coding is done). It only changes if the character is off screen or near the edge.
 
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I just hooked my plasma up to my stereo in my entertainment center.

Speakers are only like 10 inches tall.

Control all sound through my stereo. It's plenty loud.

Also don't have any wires to hide in the corners of the room.

I just don't need sound coming at me from all directions when watching games on TV.

Save your $1000 and spend it on something more important like beer.
 
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Thump;1041173; said:
I just hooked my plasma up to my stereo in my entertainment center.

Speakers are only like 10 inches tall.

Control all sound through my stereo. It's plenty loud.

Also don't have any wires to hide in the corners of the room.

I just don't need sound coming at me from all directions when watching games on TV.

Save your $1000 and spend it on something more important like beer.
Totally agree. I am not that knowledgeable about electronics but I connected my HDTV to a "small" Bose CD/radio and it sounded like the TV was behind me. Excellent quality.
 
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Thump;1041173; said:
Save your $1000 and spend it on something more important like beer.
It shouldn't be an "either/or" proposition. The #1 spending priority for men is shared between electronic equipment/beer/sex. No one item takes priority over the other, they are all equal. If money is tight then put one of your kids up for adoption or make your wife get a second job.
 
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Brewtus;1041228; said:
It shouldn't be an "either/or" proposition. The #1 spending priority for men is shared between electronic equipment/beer/sex. No one item takes priority over the other, they are all equal. If money is tight then put one of your kids up for adoption or make your wife get a second job.


Just feel that being a new homeowner like grad21is that he may be better suited to spend his $1000 on something else around his home, like for instance, a mirror and swing above his bed.

Maybe use the money to purchase a nice grill if he currently doesn't own one or perhaps a wine or keg fridge.
 
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Thump;1041241; said:
Just feel that being a new homeowner like grad21is that he may be better suited to spend his $1000 on something else around his home, like for instance, a mirror and swing above his bed.

Maybe use the money to purchase a nice grill if he currently doesn't own one or perhaps a wine or keg fridge.
A mirror and swing over the bed would fall under the sex category, so that's fine. The grill could possibly fall under the electronic equipment category, as long as it has an electronic starter. And the wine or keg fridge is covered under the beer/alcohol requirement. So as long as he spent the grand on one of those items, he's cool. But I'd be greatly disappointed if he caved in and got finagled into buying drapes or bedding or some crap like that.
 
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Buck94;1041740; said:
Muck has pretty much detailed out a solid system, especially the Hsu subwoofer. Here is an Audioholics link that provides recommendations for complete systems (includes a monitor) from $1000 all the way up to $25K Recommended Systems — Audioholics Home Theater Reviews and News


Happy hunting!

No offense to those guys, but I don't agree with their barebones system. My HK receiver is only 85 watts per channel, but way better connectivity than the Pioneer they chose (I also prefer HK over Pioneer).

Second, who has the ability to place a normal speaker as the center speaker? It may be nice, but come on! Pick out an actual center type speaker.

The rears may be nice, but they really need to up the front speakers. This is where the value really comes in. Getting a lower frequency front speakers with good quality and price is the key. Hence the reason I mentioned JBL and Infinity. The JBL Staduim and the Infinity Primus are great for the money.

Finally, Denon DVD player? Seriously!?
 
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I just noticed AV123 has their X-SLS towers at $299 also...

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They have the same drivers as the regular x-ls (which are normally $199 a pair but are out of stock). That would allow you to go with the regular X-cs center for $139 and free up $60 or so somewhere else (or you could just get 3x x-cs which would be a cool setup).

Actually not trying to sound like an AV123 shill. I just know they have a quality product and Mark Schiffer is one of the good guys in the business. He goes out of his way to take care of his customer. Still there are plenty of other quality speakers out there worth looking at including other ID companies that make great products for the price (Axiom, Ascend Acoustics etc etc). One great thing about most of the ID companies is that they will let you audition the speakers in your home free for 30 days. Some (like AV123) will even pay the return shipping if you are not happy with them.

What you really want to do is find a local audio store (ie not a Best Buy or Circuit City) with some favorite CD/DVDs and pick out a couple of comparable sets of speakers and listen to them all. If the store is at all reputable the guys there will be happy to assist you and let you experiment on your own. You are going to pay more at a brick and mortar store but that is the cost of personal attention.


scott91575;1041804; said:
No offense to those guys, but I don't agree with their barebones system. My HK receiver is only 85 watts per channel, but way better connectivity than the Pioneer they chose (I also prefer HK over Pioneer).

Receivers in that price range come down to personal preference and features. Your agreement isn't relevant if they were working with a different set of criteria than yours.

BTW what model do you have? I didn't think HK made a receiver at that price point that is rated at 85wpc.

As I stated I would personally stay away from HK right now given the unusually high number of reports of items being DOA or otherwise defective from the factory right now.


Second, who has the ability to place a normal speaker as the center speaker? It may be nice, but come on! Pick out an actual center type speaker.
Sound quality over convenience.

D'Appolito arrays have some significant sonic issues when placed horizontally.

Like it or not three identical speakers across the front stage provide a better sonic match and do sound better than any other option.

Besides most folks just plop the center channel on top of the TV anyways. It isn't any harder to do that with a bookshelf design.


The rears may be nice, but they really need to up the front speakers. This is where the value really comes in. Getting a lower frequency front speakers with good quality and price is the key.
I'm not really a fan of most tower speakers on the low end, the trade offs are too severe IMO.

The "key" is getting the best quality components in your price range that make you happy.

Just a few things to think about with this budget...

Two way designs are easier to implement than three way ones. At this price point the crossovers are not going to the greatest designs in the world...and it's a lot harder to screw up a two way crossover than a three way.

I wouldn't worry too much about how "low" the manufacturer claims the speakers can go. You are going to cross them over to the sub at a higher frequency than that anyways. Let the sub handle the LFE, that's what it's there for. It will also make life a lot easier on your receiver as lower frequencies are the ones that require the most power to drive at a given volume.

Finally, Denon DVD player? Seriously!?
Again it is obvious that they were looking at this as a dual use system and that their primary consideration was audio quality. Given their criteria it's a reasonable choice.
 
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Denon makes decent normal stereo amplifiers. They are Circuit City/Best Buy quality, if that's what you want.
I believe in buying the best quality I can afford, And there are better quality brands out there.
Someone mentioned av123.com as a good possibility for speakers. I will second that as they are a direct to you seller and have very nice looking and well reviewed speakers for the money. The company is based in Colorado. (Keep in mind that some shippers like UPS, are notorious for damaging things in shipment.)

Start with the speakers. They will voice your system. Put your time in listening to them if possible.
Then buy the amplification to power them .
Last buy your front end...DVD player.
 
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Thanks for the advice folks.

Dunno if Im looking for anything as major as some of you are listing...just a decent little system to play some music and hear the crowd.

The high ceiling already amplifies the sound so much, Im not sure I need a system on 'roids.
 
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