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Steinbrenner rips Yankees

Tibbs: "Will the Raiders be the worst team in football after they get their asses kicked by the Pats on opening day?"

The Yankees were the worst team in baseball after 4 games in 1998 too (1-3). Steinbrenner was antsy, the team wasn't hitting or pitching, Torre was going to be fired, and then oh yeah ... they went 124-47 after that.

sears3820: "He'll take all the credit when they sweep the series against the worst team in baseball."

No he won't. A-Rod deserves all the credit. He's made a HOF career off the D-Rays. He can't hit Schilling, the Red Sox, or play well against any team even remotely good, but when Tampa's in town he explodes.

After watching this stiff for the past year plus, I hate to say 'I told you so,' but I was 100% right all those years: he's not even in Jeter's class as a player. Not even close. He gets all his stats in blowouts and against bottom-barrell teams. He never hits in the clutch, he acts like a jackass, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know any better. He's a stat monger. Nothing more, and nothing less.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Tibbs: "Will the Raiders be the worst team in football after they get their asses kicked by the Pats on opening day?"

The Yankees were the worst team in baseball after 4 games in 1998 too (1-3). Steinbrenner was antsy, the team wasn't hitting or pitching, Torre was going to be fired, and then oh yeah ... they went 124-47 after that.

sears3820: "He'll take all the credit when they sweep the series against the worst team in baseball."

No he won't. A-Rod deserves all the credit. He's made a HOF career off the D-Rays. He can't hit Schilling, the Red Sox, or play well against any team even remotely good, but when Tampa's in town he explodes.

After watching this stiff for the past year plus, I hate to say 'I told you so,' but I was 100% right all those years: he's not even in Jeter's class as a player. Not even close. He gets all his stats in blowouts and against bottom-barrell teams. He never hits in the clutch, he acts like a jackass, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know any better. He's a stat monger. Nothing more, and nothing less.
one thing is consistant with all the yankee fans i know who know anything about baseball (compared to the 98% of the yankee fans who are just fans cuz they win all the damn time).....they all hate arod.
 
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yahoo.com

4/18/05

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By MIKE FITZPATRICK, AP Sports Writer
April 18, 2005


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<SMALL>AP - Apr 18, 10:35 pm EDT</SMALL>
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Alex Rodriguez, Tino Martinez and the Yankees broke out for 13 runs in the second inning Monday night on the way to a 19-8 rout of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, ending a four-game skid.

One day after Steinbrenner lashed out at his $200 million team for its 4-8 start, the Yankees quickly showed just how powerful their offense can be.

``George challenged us, and the team responded really well,'' Rodriguez said. ``We needed to stop the bleeding.''



Rodriguez homered twice, doubled twice and finished with five hits. He drove in six runs and scored five times. Martinez hit a grand slam and knocked in six runs. Bernie Williams had three hits and Jason Giambi scored three runs, making a winner of Jaret Wright (2-1) despite his poor outing.



In a little more than three hours, the Yankees boosted their team batting average from .258 to .277.



``Maybe it'll relax us at the plate,'' Martinez said. ``We needed a win -- period.''

It all started in the second, New York's biggest inning ever at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees sent 17 batters to the plate during an incredible outburst that lasted 34 minutes. They got 11 hits, including seven in a row, and 10 consecutive hitters reached safely.

``It felt like it lasted for hours,'' Tampa Bay outfielder Carl Crawford said. ``That was a tough inning. I just hope it doesn't happen again.''

Hideki Matsui drew a leadoff walk before Rodriguez hit a two-run shot off Rob Bell (1-1).

Giambi doubled, Jorge Posada grounded out and Martinez hit an RBI single. Tony Womack followed with a single off the first-base bag, and Derek Jeter drove in a run with a single.

Williams and Gary Sheffield followed with consecutive RBI singles, and Matsui singled to load the bases.

Rodriguez hit a two-run double to left, making it 8-0 and chasing Bell.

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<SMALL>AP - Apr 18, 10:29 pm EDT</SMALL>
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Giambi was walked intentionally by reliever Lance Carter, and Posada hit an RBI single. Martinez then hit a 3-1 pitch over the right-field fence for his 11th career slam and a 13-0 lead.

With one out in the second inning, every New York starter had a hit and a run scored.

The last time the Yankees scored 13 runs in an inning was June 21, 1945, in the fifth inning of a 14-4 victory at Boston. The franchise record is 14 runs in the fifth inning on July 6, 1920, against the Senators in Washington.

The last time New York got 11 hits in an inning was April 11, 1987, against Kansas City. And the Devil Rays set a team record for most runs allowed in an inning.

Rodriguez added a two-run homer off Carter in the third and just missed his third career three-homer game when he doubled off the right-center fence in the seventh.

``Over the last 10 years in my career, when I've had a lot of success, it's been spraying the ball all over the field,'' Rodriguez said.

Tampa Bay fought back against Wright, who barely lasted long enough to earn the easy win. He was charged with eight runs and 11 hits in 5 1-3 innings.

``I stayed focused. I felt fine going back out there. I just lost it and I had to work to get it back. The tendency is to try harder when you need to back off, just throw strikes, and I didn't do that,'' Wright said. ``The guys swung the bats well, I didn't pitch well.''

Aubrey Huff hit a three-run homer for Tampa Bay, which has lost 11 straight at Yankee Stadium and four in a row overall. Julio Lugo had three hits and two RBIs.

Pitching on only three days' rest, Bell gave up 10 runs and nine hits in 1 1-3 innings, raising his ERA from 4.50 to 10.80.

``That's no excuse for what happened. I felt prepared, I felt ready to go. It was some bad pitches on my part and some good hitting on theirs,'' Bell said. ``That's one I'm going to put in its proper place and not look back.'' <SMALL>Notes</SMALL> Tampa Bay LHP Mark Hendrickson was scratched from his scheduled start Tuesday night at Yankee Stadium because of a stiff shoulder. RHP Hideo Nomo will pitch instead. ... Huff hit his 100th homer, surpassing Fred McGriff for the franchise record. ... It was Rodriguez's 37th multihomer game. He has 385 homers, tied with Dwight Evans for 46th place on the career list. ... Rodriguez matched his career highs for hits and runs. ... It was the third time the Yankees have scored 13 runs in an inning.


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I guess when the Boss starts complaining they listen.:biggrin:
 
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tibor75 said:
Yeah, I would hate to play for a owner that is always trying to win...and does.

:roll1:

If the guy didn't have a huge bankroll he wouldn't even have them in the playoffs. As an organization the Yankees are shit, they import all their talent by trading away any prospect that they have. Put Steinbrenner in a smaller market as an owner and he would be mediocre at best.

Until Joe Torre here is the list of managers that coached for Steinbrenner dating back to 1973.
1973-1974 Ralph Houk
80-82
1974-1975 Bill Virdon
142-124
1975-1978 Billy Martin
279-192
1978-1978 Dick Howser
0-1
1978-1979 Bob Lemon
82-51
1979-1980 Billy Martin
55-40
1980-1980 Dick Howser
103-59
1981-1981 Gene Michael
48-34
1981-1982 Bob Lemon
17-22
1982-1982 Gene Michael
44-42
1982-1983 Clyde King
29-33
1983-1983 Billy Martin
91-71
1984-1985 Yogi Berra
93-85
1985-1986 Billy Martin
91-54
1986-1987 Lou Piniella
179-145
1988-1988 Billy Martin
40-28
1988-1989 Lou Piniella
45-48
1989-1989 Dallas Green
56-65
1989-1990 Bucky Dent
36-53
1990-1991 Stump Merrill
120-155
1992-1995 Buck Showalter
313-268
 
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daddyphatsacs: "As an organization the Yankees are shit, they import all their talent by trading away any prospect that they have."

The Yankees had the best organization (bar none) in baseball up until 2000-2001. The farm system dried up around then, and Steinbrenner's been trying to keep the team in contention by buying players.

And import all their talent? Under that same Steinbrenner watch that you bring up, the Yankees' farm teams have produced:

Ron Guidry, Don Mattingly, Derek Jeter, Willie McGee, Doug Drabek, Andy Pettite, Mariano Rivera, Jose Rijo, Greg Gagne, Jay Buhner, Jay Howell, Roberto Kelly, Bernie Williams, Eric Milton, Christian Guzman, Alfonso Soriano, Fred McGriff, Jim Leyritz, and many MANY others. Name me another team in baseball that's produced half that since 1973 ..
 
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Yep, they followed that blowout over Tampa Bay by getting their butts kicked by the D-Rays in 3 straight.
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Here we are, over a month into the season, and the lowly Pirates have a better record than the $200 Million Mercenaries from the Bronx.
 
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Misanthrope: "Here we are, over a month into the season, and the lowly Pirates have a better record than the $200 Million Mercenaries from the Bronx."

Two straight shut-outs, Playa-Haters. And one by Kevin Brown (??) Looks like the Empire Train is getting back on track .. its time to run a check.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Two straight shut-outs, Playa-Haters.
Yo, Stewart Scott, shutting out the Oakland A's hasn't exactly been a major feat this season. They're dead last in runs scored and have been shut out SIX times, already. Even Pedro fucking Astacio shut them out.

And one by Kevin Brown (??) Looks like the Empire Train is getting back on track .. its time to run a check.
I have little doubt they'll improve on their 13-19 record, but it's going to take more than two wins over the struggling A's to proclaim them, and Kevin Brown, cured of their ills.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
A-Rod deserves all the credit. He's made a HOF career off the D-Rays. He can't hit Schilling, the Red Sox, or play well against any team even remotely good, but when Tampa's in town he explodes.

After watching this stiff for the past year plus, I hate to say 'I told you so,' but I was 100% right all those years: he's not even in Jeter's class as a player. Not even close. He gets all his stats in blowouts and against bottom-barrell teams. He never hits in the clutch, he acts like a jackass, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know any better. He's a stat monger. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Well, at the risk of being one who "doesn't know any better" - and, amazingly, finding myself in the position of potential A-Rod defender - I took a look at his stats. Ironically, it appears the worst thing to happen to him is that he now plays for, not against, the Yankees.

His career OPS (on-base % plus slugging %) is over 1.000 against 12 teams, which is fairly remarkable itself, but included in those 12 teams are the Orioles, Tigers, Royals, Pirates and Blue Jays. However, the Twins are also on the list, and then there's the Yankees themselves:

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>vs.NYY</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>28</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>74</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.334</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.386</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.651</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.037</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

He flat-out owned the Yankees, who were buying, er winning, multiple World Series during that time.

As for "the clutch", his career ('96-'04) BA is .309; with RISP it is .294. He pretty much bats .300 in all situations.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/5275/splits?year=career&type=Batting

http://www.yesnetwork.com/yankees/news.asp?news_id=478
 
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Misanthrope: "Yo, Stewart Scott, shutting out the Oakland A's hasn't exactly been a major feat this season."

Sloopy's Reply: "You're telling me to put things in perspective when you're making a huge deal about a baseball team's record on May 9th?? Hoo-kay .."

Stuart Scott's Reply: "Got mass playas in the Boogie-Down ... bitches."

daddyphatsacs: "By the way Sloops.......isn't there 5 starting pitchers in a rotation?"

Yep. And since we've already touched on two of them, Randy Johnson is going tonight, and Carl Pavano is going tomorrow. Four-Fifths of the way down. Any more questions?

"They've got a long way to go, and it will be tough to catch Boston and Baltimore unless they get red hot"

DP, I wouldn't ever say a baseball team has a 'long way to go' on May 9th. The weather hasn't warmed up yet, and the season has yet to take shape. The Florida Marlins had (quote, unquote) "a long way to go" on May 9th, 2003, and we all know how that turned out.

BuckeyeNation27: "all will be well and capped off by a trade of a bag of balls to houston for roger clemens."

The absolute worst thing the Yankees could do is add another 40+ year old high-priced National League pitcher, no matter who it is. Every Yankee-hater in the world should be cheering for that deal to go down. Clemens was tailing off during his last year with the Yankees. I love the guy, but he's not a Cy Young-caliber pitcher in the A.L. anymore. It took the National League to bump him back up to Cy Young level. He won't come close to that in the AL.

Misanthrope: "As for "the clutch", his career ('96-'04) BA is .309; with RISP it is .294. He pretty much bats .300 in all situations."

Those stats are meaningless. If A-Rod gets a single with runners on 2nd and 3rd in the 8th Inning of an 8-0 game, that raises his Avg w/ RISP. A-Rod also did all that wonderful 'clutch' hitting you refer to on a last place team in a band-box for a ballpark for two years. Believe me, I watch A-Rod every single day: he's a bully. In blowout games, he will pounce on long relievers and inferior pitchers. Why don't you pull out his numbers against the Red Sox the last two years??
 
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