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Spring Football - 2005 (mega-merge)

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Zurp said:
Maybe this is common knowledge to all y'all smart folk, but what's a kick scrimmage? Do they just kickoff/punt/field goal back and forth?
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As you know, JT views Special Teams as very important to the game. During the jersey scrimmage, its light contact and not full-bore. During the Spring Game, the teams play with split squads so the lines, return guys, blockers, gunners, etc are split up amongst the two teams. This does not equate to a real scrimmage for the Special Teams players, therefore, JT has a kick scrimmage for this exact purpose.

At least that is my understanding of the situation.
 
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[font=arial,helvetica]Tressel brought the kick scrimmage to Ohio State. Not sure if he invented it (some think he did), but he made it a vital part of spring football at OSU. Here's a description I found from googling:

A typical kick scrimmage goes something like this: Two lines form on the field, the ball is snapped and kicked, there's a short runback, and the coaches yell at the players while the ball is tossed back to the center. That scene is repeated over and over and over.
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Perhaps this will help a little bit...

The format of the scrimmage itself is pretty simple. Every down is fourth down. The team with the ball must either punt, kick a field goal, or gain ten yards to retain possession. Tressel also inserts a "situation" period. This year [2004], each team had to execute five punts with the ball snapped to the punter standing on the end line of his own endzone. As in past seasons, each team also was given the ball for five downs at the end of each half in field goal range (anywhere from 32 yards to 62 yards).
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After five years, [Brandon] Joe also understands the importance of special teams to a football team. "We take pride in that here at Ohio State. It's a one-play series and it can be a turning point in a game, and it is a lot of times," said Joe.

He also understands the impact he can make on younger players as an upperclassman playing special teams.

"You can set an example for the young guys, because it was done for us. You've got a fifth year senior and he's down there flying on special teams, on the punt team. I guess you could say I'm already on the bus, I'm the starting fullback, but when the younger players see me taking special teams seriously, they get the message.

"These scrimmages are for guys who are trying to make the travel squad. To tell the honest truth, you can travel on the road by being on one special team. We know that here, so it's kind of to let these guys know that every rep and every play is a little series in itself," Joe said.
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That's the problem. What is the typical Troy Smith game? What is the typical Justin Zwick game? Nobody has a clue! A lot of us think we do, but we don't.

I think the fact that coach Daniels is calling this TS's job to lose this early speaks volumes for the team's faith in him. That, or JZ needs a serious kick in the ass.
 
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Zurp said:
I think Ted Gone will get more Heisman votes than Smith will. I would be surprised to see Smith be one of the finalists, as a Junior or a Senior. Of course, if he plays like he did against Michigan, then I can see him being a candidate. But I believe that that was not typical Troy Smith.
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That is understandable. If Tress truly lets Troy play his game, then the Mich. game will be benchmarked as a standard performance. This guy is amazing and has been since he stepped foot onto the practice field his first day.

If Tress continues to skew towards his micromanagement style, we may never be able to answer these questions regarding game-day performances.

Peace.
 
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We don't have the depth at TB to support going back to an I form offense... plus the strength of our team is clearly Ginn & Holmes, and probably Gonzo & Dukes as well in a spread offense. A spread offense will also lend itself to either allowing MWells to redshirt, which many believe he'll need with his lack of size.

Tressel's team put up a ton of points (40+ like 5 times I believe) when we had an effective offense in 2002 until MoC got hurt. While we had homerisitic optimism for 2003, we had a steady but not exciting QB... an ineffective running game and only one steady 100% WR (carter emerged briefly only to get hurt; and gamble spent his energy on defense/ST).

Once our OL gelled, he let Troy Smith play against purdue. Without those turnovers, we would be talking about 3 straight strong offensive games by our team.

I think with Smith's ability to create plays with designed QB runs and broken plays, plus the ability to get the ball in the hands of our WR playmakers sooner, the spread will continue to be our primary offense.
 
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I also don't expect TS to have a good enough year to warrant going pro. Granted, I'm not seeing the things that g&j is seeing, but it's just my opinion at this point. He played one great game and a few so-so games. I need to see that he can play up to par with the Michigan game every week. I'm not that optimistic.

I have also learned not to be overly optimistic with the o-line early in the season. They seemed to some out strong in 2002, but when MoC got hurt, it looked more like it was all MoC, and not much O-line. There seems to be a trend of slow-starting line play that comes on strong by the end of the year. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't want to set my expectations too high.

I'm with you on covering Ginn though. I have to believe that he can burn anyone he goes up against.
 
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Buckeyestyle45 said:
I'm new to this forum and still trying to find my way around. Anyway, me and my two boys are coming down from Cleveland so we probably won't be making the 6 AM thing but we'll be there as soon as we can. Count us in.

Buckeyestyle45
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Welcome to Buckeye Planet.... Looking forward to seeing you there.

gost8
 
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[It sounds like you have a lot more insider knowledge than I do. Hell, this message board provides me with what I know, so if you're giving the news to the message board.. you get the idea]

Not sure what you are getting at here. TS looks really good in practice. My comment about him going pro is centered on his supporting cast. Realistically, that is his only shot. It is amazing what an experienced and talented supporting cast can do for your image with the scouts.

IMO, he has a shot this year. The whole team just seems to be clicking on all cylinders. If you are going to the spring game, you will see what I mean. It is hard not to set your expectations too high.

If TGI hs anything to say about it, TGII will be around for his senior year.
 
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