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Split: Will NIL give schools an advantage over OSU?

NCAA NIL guidelines are not in place, but are expected to state that athletes can be compensated "at market value". Good luck defining exactly what that means per each athlete, but it should limit the ability of any booster to simply dump cash in a kids gym bag.

In any case, market value of a Buckeye is virtually by definition greater than market value of a Duck.

LeBron signed a 100 million dollar deal with Nike straight out of high-school. You could argue that's his market value...market value is not a limiting term and was really dumb wording by the powers that be....if someone is willing to pay, that's your market value.

Just pretend LeBron had to spend 1 year in college, what was his market value?

Not disagreeing with anything you said, just a thought.
 
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I'm sure Phil Knight is itching to bust open his wallet and give a Nike sponsorship to a kid that about .01% of the population has ever even heard of. Gotta target that lucrative "middle aged man who follows college recruiting" demo lmao
 
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I'm sure Phil Knight is itching to bust open his wallet and give a Nike sponsorship to a kid that about .01% of the population has ever even heard of. Gotta target that lucrative "middle aged man who follows college recruiting" demo lmao

Just sayin': Phil Knight isn't middle age any more. He's 83 and retired as CEO of Nike. However, if Mario Cristobal/Oregon contacted him and asked for help (which I doubt that he would actually do) that could be a different matter.
 
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I'm sure Phil Knight is itching to bust open his wallet and give a Nike sponsorship to a kid that about .01% of the population has ever even heard of. Gotta target that lucrative "middle aged man who follows college recruiting" demo lmao

Phil Knight would throw a check at him to get him to go to Oregon. It’s really no different than any other booster buying a recruit. It’s just more legal when it’s disguised as NIL.
 
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Phil Knight would throw a check at him to get him to go to Oregon.
More likely, Nike would design a special shoe for a recruit - Air Lendak, something like that - and give him a percent of the profits.

That would be more in the spirit of NIL, bigger ego boost for the recruit, better for brand building, plus a potential long-term revenue stream.
 
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LeBron signed a 100 million dollar deal with Nike straight out of high-school. You could argue that's his market value...market value is not a limiting term and was really dumb wording by the powers that be....if someone is willing to pay, that's your market value.

Just pretend LeBron had to spend 1 year in college, what was his market value?

Not disagreeing with anything you said, just a thought.
The Lebron example is a good one. His true market value was 100 million regardless of where he played.

But if Knight were to offer a DL 7 figures to endorse his product that would be, IMO, a flagrant attempt to simply buy the kid for Oregon. And it would be a particular problem if that offer were in any way conditional on which school the DL attended.

And this is the worm hole of NIL. Who judges "what the market will bear" as opposed to an attempt to buy players? Are we going to have schools taking one another to court? I can understand why the NCAA is late getting their guidelines out.

All that said, I can't believe that this thread of all threads has gotten so far OT and that I helped do it.
 
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The Lebron example is a good one. His true market value was 100 million regardless of where he played.

But if Knight were to offer a DL 7 figures to endorse his product that would be, IMO, a flagrant attempt to simply buy the kid for Oregon. And it would be a particular problem if that offer were in any way conditional on which school the DL attended.

And this is the worm hole of NIL. Who judges "what the market will bear" as opposed to an attempt to buy players? Are we going to have schools taking one another to court? I can understand why the NCAA is late getting their guidelines out.

All that said, I can't believe that this thread of all threads has gotten so far OT and that I helped do it.

Split?
 
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It's interesting that Gene Smith retweeted this ↓ tweet.



At Knight’s prompting, Hatfield created a piece of art featuring star Ducks defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux, and turned it into a non-fungible token, a digital art piece that Thibodeaux could sell. It shows him in three different poses, his name stretched big across the background and Hatfield’s signature scribbled into the corner. The Ducks player announced the NFT* on July 6 and has listed it on marketplace Opensea, where editions are selling for 0.045 ETH (around $89.12) each.

Though Hatfield and Knight are inextricably linked with Nike, the collaboration between them and Thibodeaux on the NFT does not involve Nike in any way—the brand hasn’t offered a public stance on the NCAA rule changes.

For the sportswear execs, two men who have given considerable money and energy to the University of Oregon, it is a move toward creating a more reciprocal relationship for athletes who bring in money at top schools without reaping direct financial benefits. They are keen here to play just within the rules, even though neither made history by adhering closely to them. Knight is more cunning than his bored, set gaze suggests, and Hatfield can be brazen, operating with a level of independence afforded by his storied career.

Their work with Thibodeaux is a hopeful experiment, a suggestion that talent at universities like Oregon deserve more than room, board, and tuition.

“Everybody else is making—everybody else meaning the advertisers, the NCAA, the coaches—they’re all making millions and millions of dollars,” Hatfield says. “So Phil Knight has really been driving this particular project. And he called me up and said, ‘We’ve got to do something.’”

* non-fungible token, a digital art piece


I was told by multiple posters on this site that Knight and Nike would no way do anything to assist Oregon in NIL or recruiting, no way no how. DUH!
 
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I was told by multiple posters on this site that Knight and Nike would no way do anything to assist Oregon in NIL or recruiting, no way no how. DUH!
I'm going to need this gotcha moment translated into English before granting you a victory lap for holding a widely held belief (that NIL will be exploited by big boosters for recruiting boosts)

Sidenote: when this came out a long time ago, I was struck by how mediocre the art was. This looks like a graphic design 101 project, not the handiwork of a titan in the industry.
 
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I'm going to need this gotcha moment translated into English before granting you a victory lap for holding a widely held belief (that NIL will be exploited by big boosters for recruiting boosts)

Sidenote: when this came out a long time ago, I was struck by how mediocre the art was. This looks like a graphic design 101 project, not the handiwork of a titan in the industry.
I could be mistaken but I don't think NIL is at the point yet where companies can just start sponsoring recruits. Even when we get to that point I highly doubt Nike is going to throw money at recruits to go to one school and risk pissing off some of their other big school e.g. OSU.

Nike pays tens of millions of dollars annually to scores of schools for marketing partnerships and invaluable exposure. Getting involved in NIL with one institution explicitly would be a slippery conflict of interest slope.

I'm definitely not saying they couldn't survive long term alienating some of their biggest school partnership (UT-A, Ohio St, scUM, etc) if it got ugly, but I'd see that being something that they'd want to avoid altogether.

I'm sure Phil Knight is itching to bust open his wallet and give a Nike sponsorship to a kid that about .01% of the population has ever even heard of. Gotta target that lucrative "middle aged man who follows college recruiting" demo lmao

I think this is a lot of hand wringing over nothing. Nike isn't going to cut a check to a high schooler to influence where they go to college. What is this.....basketball?
 
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