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Game Thread Southern Cal 18, at tOSU 15 (Sept 12th, 8 pm, ESPN)

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Taosman;1509179; said:
It's understandable that the SC fans give our team no respect. Their team killed us last year in the Coliseum! But we know our team was in disarray last year after Beanie went down. And played pretty mediocre for much of the season. That was not a very good OSU team. The record speaks for itself.
But what about this years team? We have an Improved TP. Better lines on both sides of the ball. (we believe) Less experienced(but talented) LBers.
A decent secondary but no Jenkins. Solid special teams. And we're at home under the lights. And SC won't have an extra week to prepare.
Even the SC fans admit that running QBs give there vaunted defense fits. But will Tress let TP run with any regularity to loosen up the SC defense?
Will we be good enough this early to hang with SC?
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I Really Think our Improved O & D-lines will help alot this year. I Feel this is one of our best D-lines in years. And with the addition of boren I see the offense excelling!
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OSUbuckeye09;1509203; said:
I Really Think our Improved O & D-lines will help alot this year. I Feel this is one of our best D-lines in years. And with the addition of boren I see the offense excelling!
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It's very pre-mature to assume that our offensive line will be "improved" over last season. The bottom line is, we don't know who is playing left tackle or right tackle. We have a new player at left guard and the right guard spot is also a question mark, of which may only be answered by what happens at right tackle. Continuity is a very important trait when it comes to offensive chemistry, and it also happens to be something that we are lacking at the moment along the front 5.

I'm thankful that Brewster gained the experience he did last season, and I have no doubt that he will enter this season much stronger and wiser, even if he is just a sophmore. He will have to be the leader up front for this offense this season, which is a strength, IMO.

OSU and USC are two teams with some question marks coming into the 2009 season. Both teams have lost a significant amount of veteran leadership and talent, but both also have some of each coming back. I wouldn't say the 2008 OSU squad was in "disarray" when Beanie went down, I would say they had beaten themselves mentally before they even stepped foot on the airplane in Columbus heading to L.A. last season, I don't believe that they were a very confident team, even with all of the veteran leadership.

Last seasons USC football squad was arguably one of the better squads in the land, if not the best overall. No doubt they could of hung with the likes of Florida, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc. Can we say the same for OSU? Hard to say. Regardless, last season is over, and we need to focus on this season. I think this OSU team is capable of hanging with anyone, just like last years team and they teams before them. They just have to believe it themselves, and that has to come from the top (JT). This years team needs to more physical, aggressive, and they must have a much stronger sense of urgency than this past squad had shown for the past couple of seasons.

I expect a much better football game this season on September 12th in Ohio Stadium.
 
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I think Pryor gives this year's OSU team a whole new perspective. It's his offense now..........no questions about it. He has the drive to win a heisman. I get the feeling that he is going to really play well in this game. If he does that, the Buckeyes win.
 
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The quality of discussion has kind of deteriorated in this thread, so....

Awhile back, people were talking about gameplan, and I was just wondering, from the Buckeye folk, what you guys think would work from an offensive standpoint (outside the box)?


I think it is highly unlikely JT veers from the usual offensive look, but I think it would benefit him to come out with something totally new for this game.

Since I don't think Pryor will be quite ready to take over this early in the season with his passing game, it would be really interesting to see OSU come out with a Georgia Tech, true triple-option attack. It was shocking to watch that team last year run that absurd, old school offense with such success, and just slowly demolish teams, and it got me to thinking that Pryor/Saine/Herron could do a much better job of it if they really dedicated themselves to it.

I think it would take USC by surprise, and it would also neutralize our defenses strongest area (pass coverage) and take advantage of our only real weakness (LB/run def).

Plus, it consumes so much time off the clock, it would guarantee a low-scoring game going into the 4th quarter, and probably cause SC to change up it's offensive gameplan a bit.

I know all you Buckeye fans want to see Pryor drop back and wing it, and I'm sure he's improved his passing a lot over the offseason, but why not maximize his biggest strength and (at least for one game) simplify the offense to like, 3 plays, give the O-linemen some PCP before kickoff, and bash it out. Don't think USC's defense is really engineered to play that kind of game...


Any thoughts?
 
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SoCal;1509432; said:
it would be really interesting to see OSU come out with a Georgia Tech, true triple-option attack. It was shocking to watch that team last year run that absurd, old school offense with such success, and just slowly demolish teams
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The triple option is not something that is not easy to perfect. Paul Johnson has perfected it over his coaching career. I highly doubt it would be effective for a team like OSU to try it, because it's highly oriented by timing. If you don't practice it a lot, it won't work.
 
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Look, USC is a big game, no doubt. But its not the season. Pryor has to be ready to pass against defenses like USC's if OSU is going to do anything special. Winning with the triple option doesn't help Pryor develop for the bowl game or next year.
 
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LA.Times

Joe McKnight looks at it from both sides now


Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times​

USC running back Joe McKnight has been practicing at defensive back for the Trojans, but he likely will not get a chance to play on defense this season.


The junior running back has been practicing at defensive back in informal workouts and would like to play there part-time. But Coach Pete Carroll says that's unlikely

By Bill Brink
August 2, 2009

Joe McKnight says his toes are healed and he's ready to play football again -- on offense and defense.

USC's junior running back missed spring practice while rehabilitating four dislocated toes but has returned to the field and is practicing at defensive back during informal summer workouts. He says he hopes to show his coaches he has the talent to play defense as well as run the ball when preseason camp starts Aug. 8.

"I did it all my high school career," McKnight said. "I figure if I can do it here I could be more productive, get more in a rhythm and everything of the game."

Coach Pete Carroll said McKnight had the tools to contribute on defense but probably wouldn't get the opportunity.

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SoCal;1509432; said:
I think it is highly unlikely JT veers from the usual offensive look, but I think it would benefit him to come out with something totally new for this game.
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Last year, the OSU offense alternated between two quarterbacks with completely different styles, within series, on a play-by-play basis. Departures from "the usual offensive look" don't get a lot more radical than that. And it worked, for the most part, except in the red zone (with an assist from some untimely holding calls). I don't think creativity (or lack thereof) in offensive play calling is going to decide this game. The OSU O-line simply needs to consistently fight to a draw or better, particularly in short yardage situations, and more particularly in red zone situations. Do that, and the offense as a whole will be reasonably effective, maybe moreso. Don't do that, and they'll settle for the occasional field goal.
 
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