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Shriners' charitable accounting questioned

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    NEW YORK, March 19 A New York Times investigation published Monday claims just 2 percent of funds Shriners raised in 2005 went to operate their charitable hospitals.

    In interviews with current and former members of the Masonic order, the newspaper reported more than 57 percent of the $32 million the group raised in 2005 through circuses, bingo games and raffles went to costs of the fraternity.
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    I really hope this isn't true. I hope they put more than 2% into the hospitals.
     
    Are you doubting our integrity, or our accounting practices?

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    Here is the NYT article. FWIW, the description of the 2 percent seems to have changed between the two stories, so it might be more useful to look at the original article.

    NYT said:
    Only 2 percent of the Shrine hospitals? operating income comes from money raised by Shrine temples and members? dues. (The bulk is supplied by the hospitals? $9 billion endowment.)
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    Earthtimes said:
    NEW YORK, March 19 A New York Times investigation published Monday claims just 2 percent of funds Shriners raised in 2005 went to operate their charitable hospitals.
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    My wife's grandfather, great uncle and several other members of her family are Shriner members. Her grandfather spends a lot of time transporting people who could not on their own make it for medical care. I know they do a lot of good. I'm interested in his take on this.
     
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    Deety;787121; said:
    Here is the NYT article. FWIW, the description of the 2 percent seems to have changed between the two stories, so it might be more useful to look at the original article.
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    Thanks Deety for linking the full article.

    As much good as the Shriners have done for others over the years it would seem they do need to take care of their own business more carefully. Anytime that large sums of money are around and, even temporarily, available there is a risk those funds will be misused. Much of what was detailed in the NYT article falls into that class of greed driven crime.

    The later characterization by Earthtimes of the accounting issues over-emphasizes the role that donations play in funding the day-to-day operations of the Hospital network.

    Hope those clowns with funny hats get their house in order.
     
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    sandgk;787606; said:
    Thanks Deety for linking the full article.

    As much good as the Shriners have done for others over the years it would seem they do need to take care of their own business more carefully. Anytime that large sums of money are around and, even temporarily, available there is a risk those funds will be misused. Much of what was detailed in the NYT article falls into that class of greed driven crime.

    The later characterization by Earthtimes of the accounting issues over-emphasizes the role that donations play in funding the day-to-day operations of the Hospital network.

    Hope those clowns with funny hats get their house in order.
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    No need to make excuses for the idiots featured in the story.... but... the problem here is similar to any organization that is dispersed and largely run by local volunteers.... obviously some unfortunate liberties are taken.... but.. the full NY Times article does sort of outline the problem when the local temples have Treasurers that aren't necessarily Treasurers... the other problem is that the Shrine isn't solely a charitable organization... so... you have memebership that have differing viewpoints of what the organiztaional goas are. At any rate... not every Temple is run as professionally as Aladdin (Its on Steltzer Road-- just picked that because some of you might be familiar with that, or might have attended an event of soem kind there) who have a full time staff.... but... even the various units and the Temple itself are run by members who volunteer.

    Anyway... point is... I guess... that the 9 billion dollar endowment for these hospitals didn't come from fucking around completely.

    Hey, LoKy. How much did the Shriner Hospotial in Tamps cost you to help your son?:wink2:
     
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    Ok.. so 42.8% of the money raised by the Shriners goes to the Hospitals. That includes the yearly dues money that every Shriner pays to remain within the order.

    The rest goes towards allowing the Shriners to do what they do. Entertain, volunteer and raise money for the Shriners and the hospitals.

    Girl Scout cookie sales only reap the individual troops only $0.50 per box out of the $3.00 per box sale price.
     
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